Who Is Really Paying For The Tories Grossly Incompetent Handling Of The Immigrant Crisis?

[Hymie]

Rather than process immigrants expeditiously (deporting those not qualifying), the incompetent government is wasting enormous amounts of tax-payer money, putting them in hotels and barges for extended periods.

But who is ultimately paying the price for this?

The answer to that question is the poorest people in the world, who receive our aid; this is because the money spent on the asylum system is considered to be part of our spending on overseas aid.

So as our spending on housing immigrants soars, the amount of money available to help the poorest in the world diminishes.

[Bobbisox1]

Labour expenses have far outstripped that of that of the Conservatives

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-66605159#

[naomi24]

//this is because the money spent on the asylum system is considered to be part of our spending on overseas aid. //

Does that mean that the ever-increasing amount we spend on the asylum system is deducted from that allocated to overseas aid and therefore less money is going overseas - or is it in addition to that allocation, which would mean the amount spent on that too is forever increasing?

[ladybirder]

//Does that mean that the ever-increasing amount we spend on the asylum system is deducted from that allocated to overseas aid and therefore less money is going overseas\\

Yes I believe so.

[naomi24]

Thanks LB. In that case the blame can be laid firmly at the door of the thousands of economic migrants coming from the safety of France and posing as asylum seekers. They're hurting their own.

[New Judge]

//Thanks LB. In that case the blame can be laid firmly at the door of the thousands of economic migrants coming from the safety of France and posing as asylum seekers.//

Exactly. There is no reason for anybody to travel from France to the UK by unconventional means to claim asylum. The rate at which they are arriving means that no government, of any persuasion, can hope to deal “expeditiously” with their bogus claims. France won’t hear of them being returned there (and in fact are often actively assisting their safe passage to UK waters).

The asylum system is not fit for purpose. It is now being used to facilitate large numbers of people moving to the UK “to start a new life” because they don’t like it where they are. Once here there is little to no chance of them being removed. This would be the same whatever political party held power.

The only way to deal with this expeditiously is to prevent them landing in the first place. Since the hand-wringers that infest government and the Civil Service will not countenance this either, we’re stuck with it and these people – who are simply jumping to the front of the queue of people trying to get here legally – will continue to arrive. But let’s not pretend it would be any different under a Labour administration.

[youngmafbog]

It would be worse under labour, Sir Kier would like an open door policy as would many others.

Lets not forget it is labour MP's and Peers along with Lib-Dems that stonewall any attempt to do anything. Even though many true labour voters (that I know) are just as angry with the situation and would be happy for the economic migrants to be deported.

The only solution is to leave the ECHR and JFDI. *** the hand wringers let them bleat.

[Old_Geezer]

If you can process them faster or persuade them not to come here please tell the government.

Meanwhile your precious EU is content to let them risk their lives to get here on unchannelworthy craft despite France getting UK taxpayers' money to do their job properly.

And don't expect sensible suggestions from the hard of thinking pro-migrant lobby, who only suggest making it easier for the invaders to arrive.

Meanwhile maybe tell Sunak a good start would be to withdraw from the ECHR who clearly don't know what a HR is. And maybe to ensure the ECJ has no say in UK matters either.

[Old_Geezer]

"France won’t hear of them being returned there"

France shouldn't be given the option. Are they going to declare war and open fire if we dump the invaders back near their shore with the message that they were meant (and paid to boot) to stop this lot ?

[Gromit]

// Lets not forget it is labour MP's and Peers along with Lib-Dems that stonewall any attempt to do anything. //

And yet again the lie is repeated.

The Conservatives have huge majority in the Commons and the Lords. If the Government cannot get something passed, it is because it cannot persuade enough of its own members back it.

[Hymie]

I don’t understand how more migrants were arriving in the UK in 2002, and the government of the day did not have a problem; now all of a sudden due to our incompetent government we have a problem.

NJ seems to be blaming the migrants, who have a legal right to claim asylum here – clearly the blame lies with the government; stop making excuses for their incompetence, and call it out for what it is.

[ToraToraTora]

Gromit is correct, Labour et al do oppose but we have a majority. Sadly some of them are 5C quislings who side with the opposition. The problem is though any legislation is later thwarted by the trobiscite hoards and blood sucking lawyers with endless appeals. The only way is to pass legislation that is un appeal able and that is very difficult to do.

[youngmafbog]

//NJ seems to be blaming the migrants, who have a legal right to claim asylum here //

Err, no. A few are asylum seekers however the vast majority are ILLEGAL economic migrants.

[Hymie]

People wanting us to leave the ECHR don’t understand that that organisation gives us British citizen rights; so abandoning them we would be joining the likes of Russia and Belarus.

If we wanted to turn people away, arriving on our shores asking for asylum, we’d probably need to leave the UN too.

[theshedman]

Hymie at 13.09, have you ever thought that it was because they were allowed to come to the UK from the EU and settle here and nothing to do with any government that was in power but because we had no choice as it was EU law.

[Hymie]

// Err, no. A few are asylum seekers however the vast majority are ILLEGAL economic migrants.//

Any competent government would process them and then deport them – rather than paying for their extended stay in 4* hotels.

[ToraToraTora]

The ECHR is not fit for purpose it does nothing to protect human rights. It is mainly used by Scum lawyers to protect the rights of criminal scum. We should leave it and replace it with our human rights legislation based on the common sense rights of the majority.

[Hymie]

It’s nothing to do with EU law – heaven help us!!!!!!

[Hymie]

So when we have our own human rights legislation, it would protect the rights of the majority – not the minority, very fair.

[ToraToraTora]

hymie: "Any competent government would process them and then deport them – rather than paying for their extended stay in 4* hotels. " - we tried but your 5C mates and scum lawyers obstruct everything. Not to mention the hordes of hand wringing Trobiscites.

[Hymie]

The government is still processing the asylum seekers, only very slowly due to their incompetence. They have to be processed eventually, either process them quickly (and save tax-payer money), or put them up in 4* hotels at great expense – which would you prefer?