Murder Being Once Done..

[sandyRoe]

... it's easy to fall into the habit.

https://news.sky.com/story/amp/video-emerges-of-aid-workers-being-fired-on-in-gaza-contradicting-israeli-account-of-deadly-attack-13342194

 

 

[ToraToraTora]

Hamas cowards were among them, more victims of Oct 7th.

https://news.sky.com/story/israel-hamas-war-mutilated-charred-remains-bear-witness-to-the-extreme-barbarity-of-militant-attack-13001153

stay in bed none of this happens.

[sandyRoe]

The charred remains were the result of IDF action.

But I'm sure you already knew that.

[Peter Pedant]

and then they buried themselves....

seems a bit of a give away - how long do you ive this? 7 mins ?

Fella films it - sensible fellow - and then is killed with the cell running and is buried with it. RIP

[Peter Pedant]

sozza, they incinerated themselves incompletely and THEN buried themselves.

all truth is here

[Ellipsis]

> The Israeli military originally claimed an investigation had found the vehicles did not have any headlights or emergency signals and were therefore targeted as they looked "suspicious".

> But video footage obtained by the PRCS - and verified by Sky News - shows the ambulances and a fire vehicle clearly marked with flashing red lights.

> Following the emergence of the video, the Israel Defence Forces (IDF) said the incident was "under thorough examination"

I look forward to the result of the examination ... especially the bit about how the original version conflicted with the later video. I suspect that it won't be the IDF's fault, according to the IDF. That's if we ever see an explanation at all ...

[Peter Pedant]

I suspect they will says - "fifteen? oops - lets us ignore the other 86 000"

two operatives ( soldiers) have been dismissed (?) whichc means have to go bed early I suppose

[THECORBYLOON]

TORATORATORA, "Hamas cowards were among them, more victims of Oct 7th."

From the BBC, 

"Israel claimed a number of Hamas and Islamic Jihad militants had been killed in the incident, but it has not provided any evidence or further explained the threat to its troops."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4g2z103nqxo

 

[wolf63]

TTT England invaded Scotland on many occasions in the past.

By your logic any Scot could be entitled to visit England and take revenge!

[Deskdiary]

^^^except it is nothing like that at all.

[wolf63]

Sandy, here is an update https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy0xp969n69o

 

[Khandro]

Hamas have previously used ambulances to ambush IDF soldiers. It's easy to sit back in comfort and condemn actions which have had to be taken in split-second decisions in the field.

 

[sandyRoe]

^. That's what Israeli propagandists would like the world to believe.  It allows their soldiers to get on with the butchery without the inconvenience of having to justify their actions.

It's occasions like this, and the time they shot and killed three of the hostages who had escaped, which lifts the curtain covering their butchery.

[naomi24]

//Israel claimed a number of Hamas and Islamic Jihad militants had been killed in the incident, but it has not provided any evidence or further explained the threat to its troops.//

 

What further explanation could possibly be required?  Hamas and Islamic Jihad militants were among the dead.  People who defend Hamas see no further than their noses, completely disregarding the ultimate outcome of their victory - something that would be far worse than anything we're witnessing now and not only for that area but for the whole world.

 

 

[THECORBYLOON]

What split-second decision had to be made by the Israeli Defense Forces' personnel in this instance?

[THECORBYLOON]

"What further explanation could possibly be required?  Hamas and Islamic Jihad militants were among the dead."

Has that been confirmed?

[theshedman]

sandy, I see yesterday on the news that 100s of Palestinians who Hamas have claimed to be dead have suddenly been seen alive and well yet no mention of it from you.  I would have thought you would have been celebrating this.  Always 2 sides to these things and it has to be seen from both sides to get a proper picture of it.  I have no doubt that Israel have shot innocents over the time this has been going on but so have Hamas and don't forget it was them that started this war and now it seems they are exaggerating the figures of dead probably to make them look better.

[naomi24]

I don't know Corby,  It's from your link.

[sandyRoe]

Naomi24 

I don't think the Palestinians have any territorial ambitions other than to regain the lands that have been stolen from them over the last 70+ years, with theft in the West Bank ongoing even as we write.

Realistically, they'd be happy with a two state solution.  Though that seems increasingly unlikely.

[naomi24]

sandyRoe, if you don't think - you should try thinking.  Hamas's stated intention will help you.  They make no bones about what they want.

[theshedman]

sandy do you really know what Hamas wants because it is not a 2 state solution.  If you think it is then you are mistaken.