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edwardian | 13:41 Thu 11th May 2006 | News
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Yet again a foreign multinational intends to shut a British company and take the jobs elsewhere.It was announced yesterday that American giant,Heinz, intends to close the H P sauce factory in Birmingham.The sauce will be made in Holland.The reason that the sauce is made in the midlands is because of the water source,a well, which gives the unique taste.If it is made in Holland it will not taste the same.


According to the local radio station, Radio WM,Heinz has a factory in Holland which is having financial difficulties and is only working at 60% capacity.It is moving sauce production from the successful Aston works in order to make the Dutch factory profitable.


This sauce is British .It has our Houses of Parliament on the label.How many more of our companies are going to shut down and be moved abroad?


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Apparently we buy over 28 million bottles a year in this country. If we all switch to a different brand, I am sure they will reconsider.
It is only actually relatively recently that HP sauce started to be manufactured in Birmingham; for years it was made in Market Harborough in Leicestershire. Are you telling me they used the same well to make the sauce then?
well, theres something i didn't know robbo82, and i live in leicester!!! You can't really beat Heinz can you? I find it incredibly sad that things like this are moving abroad. I went to York a couple of years ago and on a river trip we could smell the chocolate in the air (Terrys of York) and were promptly told that they would no longer be manufacturing it in York a couple of months down the line, but in a foreign country, can't remember where now. Not quite the same really!
HP sauce is not made by Heinz. It is made by HP Foods which is a part of the Danone group.
Earlier this year the Competition Commission cleared the Heinz takeover of HP Foods from French firm Danone.

Mr Jones said: "The workers at HP Sauce in Birmingham are very bitter at this decision by Heinz.

Of course, British companies never offend local sensibilities by buying up foreign companies and shutting them down, do they?


You want cheap goods? Then find a company that has their manufacturing base in China. Don't want expensive bank charges? Then find one that cuts costs by outsourcing its call centre to the Indian Sub-continent. Want to perpetuate this cycle? Shop at Tesco / Asda / Morrisons / Sainsbury's.


Want something 'Made in Britain'? Then expect to pay an arm and a leg. Want globalisation? We've got it. We helped it. We made it.


'Brands' are bought and sold all the time. The HP I knew in the 70's bares no relation to the one sold now - it has passed from one company to another, who have each switched production to here and allowed production 'under license' there.


Like foreign lager (Aussie, German, Belgian, you name it), it is the name that is sold. Too expensive to ship bulk loads of, mainly water into the country, so brew it as cheaply as possible in places like Warrington (and Romford before that became a shopping centre), give it a foreign / exotic / well-known name that you use "Under License" and you have a pint of p*ss that bears no resemblance to the product it is supposed to be sold as.


If you think multi-nationals are screwing us by closing down our HP Sauce factory, then spare a thought for what they do to the less developed countries of the World every day!

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Robbo Leicester?


http://www.brownsauce.org/

The water has nothing to do with the flavour.
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Sorry, the water has everything to do with the flavour.


Ansells brewery was situated in the same Aston district of Birmingham because the same well water gave their beers its distinctive taste.


Burton on Trent has numerous breweries.They are in this specific area because of the water.This water rising through sandstone, and with a high content of gypsum gives Burton pale ales their characteristic taste.


Likewise vinegar, used in H P sauce ,is also affected by the water used in the brewing process.


Few smells can compare with the delightful aroma coming from the H P sauce factory.I used to sit in school, just down the road, and dream of egg and chips and lashings of sauce!


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I know how it feels..ALL of our jobs have been moved over -seas. It's tough, and it's sad. But its ALL ABOUT the BIG BUSINESS and THEIR FORTUNE. We should all fight back and stop putting up with this.


-from an American

exacta-tactio brachiopod i live in canada and when i was a boy everything everything in our household was made in canada or great britain. nowadays its all taiwan, singapore ,malaysia, japan and lately big time china and korea even. any american brand name electronics,tools,appliances etc. if you look internally are all assembled in mexico and some in the above mentioned. the truth being they are all subsiduary companies, owned by bigger companies and when you get to the top they are all giant petro-chemical and pharmacudical companies that own everything, including the news networks and all mainstream written word. farming their labour out to the lowest bidder and putting all smaller domestic companies out of business. with the aid of u.s and u.n. military forces as stickmen. they extract their raw materials from anyone and anywhere they deem necessary, under the guise of freedom and democracy. and incidently, i have not seen much of anything made in great britain for years and have to look very hard to find anything made in canada.

And please don't forget that the Heinz fortune is where 2004 US Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry gets his money.


Kerry and his wife don't care who loses a job, who mans the customer service center, or who produces the containers for the sauces. In fact, most of their lot like to have glass and plastic containers produced in countries with no environmental restrictions. So on top of closing down factories and throwing people out of work, they pollute the poorest of third world countries for the sole purpose of enriching themselves. Disgusting.


John Kerry is such a hypocrite.

The reason the water doesn't make a difference to the flavour is that the largest ingredient is vinegar - any water (if indeed any is used) would be overpowered by the large amount of vinegar.
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Vinegar is basically the result of letting alcohol turn sour. And what is used in alcohol production ?...water.Vinegar was 'discovered' when beer turned sour.
They don't make the vinegar there though, they buy it in.
Ha!
pantywaist.
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I'm losing the will to live.


The vinegar is not bought in.The factory, which became HP, originally made vinegar.


The factory was about a mile away from where I went to Grammar School.I don't always know what I am talking about, but in this case I do.


There was a programme on the radio today discussing Guinness.It appears they opened a new brewery but were forced to shut it because the Guinness did not taste the same.The reason it did not taste the same ? the water!!!!!!

You are making this all up ( I know I am).

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