Teacher Jailed For Underage Sex, But Is It?

[trt]

I can understand the teacher being dismissed, and not being able to teach again but why is he being charged with having underage sex, she was 17yrs old?

Last week a teacher was found not guilty for sex with a 16yr old.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2918613/Pictured-Drama-teacher-fathered-child-17-year-old-pupil-five-year-affair-jailed-one-year.html

[BlackadderV]

It;s to do with a breach of fiduciary trust. The other case you refer to was distinguished by the facts; he was found guilty, just not imprisoned.

[Cloverjo]

In both cases the teachers were charged with having sex with a person under 18 for whom they were in a position of authority.

[douglas9401]

Does this apply to royals too I wonder?

[anotheoldgit]

Surely if the legal age old consent is 16, what does it matter what their older partners job is?

Would it have been any different if he had been the girl's boss in any other line of employment?

/// The court heard the victim, who cannot be named and is now taking civil action against her former school, described feeling ‘confused and lost’ and had been ‘let down by a teacher whom she looked up to and trusted’. ///

Ah now I beginning to understand why after 5 years together she has now spoken up, all with the help of her mother of course.

[ummmm]

Aog, have you ever heard of grooming?

[-Talbot-]

Or common sense?

[hc4361]

AOG, a 16 year old can have sex with a teacher of any age if the child has never met the adult in the course of his or her schooling.
If they met in a park, for example, and the teacher has never worked at the 16 year old's school there is not a problem.

[anotheoldgit]

ummmm

/// Aog, have you ever heard of grooming? ///

Yes but what difference does his job make, answer my point about his position being any different from any other person's supervisory job?

She was 17 not a child, and who then went on to have a child by him in her early 20s. surely she should have been 'grown up' enough by then?

[hc4361]

He was her TEACHER.

[hc4361]

Does this help?

"Under the Children Act 1989, teachers have a duty of care towards their pupils, traditionally referred to as 'in loco parentis'. Legally, while not bound by parental responsibility, teachers must behave as any reasonable parent would do in promoting the welfare and safety of children in their care"

https://www.tes.co.uk/article.aspx?storycode=370916

[anotheoldgit]

hc4361

/// He was her TEACHER. ///

Yes her 'Drama' teacher seems he was too good at his job, judging by her reaction.

[Old_Geezer]

I recall a teacher when I was school age I'd have loved to have wanted underage sex with me. But she never had the good taste to suggest it :-(

[anotheoldgit]

hc4361

/// Does this help? ///

The answer to that, "is a 17 year old still a child"?

[jim360]

As long as someone is at school then they cannot and should not pursue a relationship with teachers there. This ought to be obvious; and just because the relationship continues beyond school years doesn't make it suddenly legitimate, especially as in this case it's suspected that the child was groomed. People in bad relationships can, and do, feel trapped in them sometimes. I'd have thought this too was obvious.

[anotheoldgit]

jim360

Would that apply if she had been 'groomed' by a university lecturer?

[hc4361]

AOG, that is why there is a specific law to prevent teachers having sex with their 16 and 17 year old pupils. It is not 'underage sex' it is the offence of abuse of position of trust under s.16 of the Sexual Offences Act 2003 which deals specifically with 16 and 17 year old pupils.

Obviously if the pupil is under 16 there is other laws in place.

[hc4361]

AOG, university lecturers are not in 'loco parentis' are school teachers are and the vast majority of university students are 18 and above.

[Buenchico]

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2003/42/part/1/crossheading/abuse-of-position-of-trust

[trt]

## The answer to that, "is a 17 year old still a child? ##

No they are not!

I agree OAG, they are grown up women theses days, and you can see them down any high street at weekends, skirts up to their @rse, smoking, getting blotto, effing & blinding, falling over and puking up!

That is not child behavior IMO.

[hc4361]

But the offence is not 'sex with a child'.