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Dot, think you have hit the nail on the head! Top and bottom of it is like this: the club has been run for years with various people helping themselves to gaming machine money, tote money etc etc etc ad nauseum. Now a GROUP of people, rather than an individual have taken over and in 2 years have turned the club around from being 23k in the red to being @ 13k in profit - no mean achievement. They have put (pretty obvious) systems in place, such as no single person empties the fruit machines, all monies are counted by more than one person. They have renegotiated with breweries, utilities etc etc and have brought ALL their bills down. Now that the club itself is on an even keel, they have to look at the canteen. The accountant has recommended that they close it as it is running at a loss. Some of the members would be VERY sorry to see it close, so they do feel a certain loyalty to them to try to keep it open. The 2 ladies who run it are very much in charge of themselves. There are no other staff there until the barman comes in at lunchtime. The ladies go home at @ 1.30. One lady is as honest as the day is long, and as soon as she is on holiday, the takings plummet. The spreadsheets show this. That is the only "evidence" they have. A normal day, takings could be @ £80 - £100, but when the "suspect" is there on her own or with a casual, it can go down to as little as £3. She just says it was quiet!!!!! She also hints that it could be the casual as she is busy cooking. She does however cash up.