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Why Do Migrants Beat Young Brits To Jobs?
As youth unemployment passes the 1m mark, why are migrant workers beating our boys and girls to whatever jobs are going begging? Are the stereotypes true? Are our under 25s lazy, unreliable and arrogant? Are foreigners, who only have English as a second language, really more flexible, more approachable and smarter both mentally and appearance-wise?
I copied this article from the MW Show this morning, I thought it might open up an interesting debate on the subject.
My own opinion is we can't tar all of our under 25s with this, but are foreign workers more hard working than us Brits? apparently 99% of Pret A' Manger employees are foreign workers and they actually pay over the minimum wage at about £7-50 per hr
What's your take on this?
I copied this article from the MW Show this morning, I thought it might open up an interesting debate on the subject.
My own opinion is we can't tar all of our under 25s with this, but are foreign workers more hard working than us Brits? apparently 99% of Pret A' Manger employees are foreign workers and they actually pay over the minimum wage at about £7-50 per hr
What's your take on this?
Answers
What you have to bear in mind is that anyone who's taken the initiative and made the effort to come here to work really wants to work.
It's a false comparison to compare that set of people with young people who were born here.
It's a false comparison to compare that set of people with young people who were born here.
12:52 Fri 18th Nov 2011
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There are migrant and there are migrants, and they are not all the same. But that said many migrant workers are coming from an area of of the world with economic difficulty, low wage, low cost, low prospects, and so have much lower expectations on what constitutes a fair deal than those born here. Consequently they are more prepared to agree to worse conditions and lower pay as for them it is seen as an improvement. I suspect this accounts for much of the issue. If there is a workforce willing to come here and undercut local expectations of what is fair, then they get the job. A simple divide and rule tactic on a global labour market.
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We've recently had some work done on our house. All the Eastern Europeans turned up on the dot of eight. Worked through the day with just a break long enough to drink their tea and eat a sandwich, tidied as they went and left at five, leaving the place as tidy as you could expect when building work is underway. This in stark contrast to the British workers who turned up a day early, a day late, had to disappear for an hour or so to get a part, spent much of the day dropping hints about being parched and left mid afternoon after a cursory tidy.
Another factor is that up to a point execrations have been set such that serving is seen as "beneath" the present generation. Not all obviously, but there is a general trend IMO. And parents, and the welfare state, allow some to feel they can manage without "lowering themselves" to that sort of labour.
But the fact is that this is a complex situation, I don't think one can do more than spot the larger influences. Often things are trying to find a decent balance, and instead finding an unhappy medium.
But the fact is that this is a complex situation, I don't think one can do more than spot the larger influences. Often things are trying to find a decent balance, and instead finding an unhappy medium.
my nephew is 17 going on 18. He went to college for about 2 months before he decided it was too cold for him to go every day the 7.5 miles on his moped (which his parents bought and filled with petrol for him) and dropped out. Since then he has not had a job and spends his days doing nothing. His parents bought him a car for his 17th birthday (don't know why - he doesn't have to go anywhere) and i presume you can't claim child benefit or JSA at 17 so i also presume they are keeping him. It makes me totally mad
I work in a home that employs about 25 carers, 3 of those are Romanian, they are the most reliable, the hardest working, very rarely off sick and will always step in to cover shifts.
They have made a life changing decision to come here, they nearly always be more keen, their lives often revolve around money.
They have made a life changing decision to come here, they nearly always be more keen, their lives often revolve around money.
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