Why Was Only A Teaching Ban Imposed On This Lecherous Woman?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4771882/Drama-teacher-banned-classroom-sex-pupil.html

[jackthehat]

What else, based on the details given, would you have liked to have happened to her?

She has been barred, for life, from working with young adults.....which seems appropriate.

[wolf63]

From the comments in the comments section it seems like the girl was over eighteen. What the teacher did wasn't illegal.

[anotheoldgit]

jackthehat

It does not say how old the pupil was, you somehow think that she was a young adult.

But wasn't a footballer once jailed for having a lesser sexual relationship with a 'young adult'? In fact he was labelled a paedophile.

[Sqad]

Well, AOG...that was only "Lesbian sex"........and i don't think that it counts as real sex........does it?

[EDDIE51]

As said the girl was over 16 and a willing partner. So it was not illegal just against the code of conduct for a teacher.

[jackthehat]

The girl in that case was 15, AOG.

It appears the girl in this case was older.

[-Talbot-]

It does not say how old the pupil was, you somehow think that she


And you somehow think?

[anotheoldgit]

wolf63

Only one comment stated that she was over eighteen, where did that reader get their information from?

[EDDIE51]

AOG the Daily Wail does not mention the age because the girl was over 16. You can be 100% certain the 'Wail' would have put it in the headline if the pupil was under 16 and so still legally a child!
The teacher was not charged with any offence meaning that the girl was over 16. Paedophilia is defined as haveing a sexual interest in a child who is below the age of puberty , so the teacher can not be classified as a paedophile! Do you not ever think these things through before posting?

[Peter Pedant]

because we read the article AOG - I hesitate to say re-read
and then we find out around line 5
why she was banned from teaching

it was a teachers disciplinary panel
( but surely we knew that anyway )
and they are the licensing authority for teachers

and not a criminal court
( but we knew that didnt we)

and so they only had powers which relate to teachers who they are and where they teach etc

unlike Chad Thingey who was indicted in a criminal court ( different words because they are different things) for sexual offences
( and we knew that as well didnt we)

[Peter Pedant]

there is a criminal charge related to taking advantage of a vulnerable child or adult

but since we dont know the facts
but we do know the above wasnt a criminal court
we can conclude that no case was brought
(criminal charges usually come first then the licensing disciplinary bit is so so much easier)
you just say they have been convicted of a crime and that therefore they are unfit to be a member of whichever licensing body it is

[anneasquith]

It would appear the ex teacher did not commit a criminal act, banned from teaching seems fair .

[chelle7272]

I don't think a teachers conduct panel has powers to do much else?

[jno]

as everyone says: it's a disciplinary matter before a professional panel, not a criminal charge before a court, and that's because there's no evidence of a crime. Teachers' panels have no powers to order public horsewippings, even for lecherous women.

"Barton admitted that she had failed to maintain boundaries" - makes her sound like a negligent landowner.

[youngmafbog]

Only in the Lady Garden.

[andy-hughes]

Sqad - //Well, AOG...that was only "Lesbian sex"........and i don't think that it counts as real sex........does it? //

I think jack and her wife would argue with you on that on one!

[sp1814]

AOG

Was the girl in question under 16?

If so, then a custodial sentence might've been applied.

What sentence do you think would've been appropriate, given the information available?

[EDDIE51]

Would your reaction be the same if a male teacher had a relationship with an over 16 year old female student???
As said, this is only news because it was a teacher and one of her pupils.
If the same (over 16 years old ) schoolgirl had sex with a random 37 year old woman who was not her teacher we would never have known about it, it would never have been reported as it is would not be news, it would just be an act of consensual sex between 2 people over the age of consent.

[Tilly2]

Would you like to see her hung, drawn and quartered, AOG? Would that be an appropriate punishment?

[andy-hughes]

If you look through the typical hypercritical tabloid prurience prodding Middle England into a frothy frenzy of moral outrage, there is still the very real issue here - that this woman has abused her position of trust in starting a sexual relationship with a pupil.

We should not lose sight of that while we are quite rightly upbraiding the hysterical attitudes to the relationship caused by the kind of titillating nonsense that the Mail loves so much.