Gordon Ramsay Slams The Lazy Brits.

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4964632/Gordon-Ramsay-Brexit-create-opportunities.html

/// He said the 'level of influx of multi-national workers in this country has sort of confirmed how lazy as a nation we are - when individuals from across the seas are prepared to come and work twice as hard for less money'. ///

Does he realise that it may be less money to us but a great deal more than they can earn in their own countries, which in turn keeps our earnings low, why else do they clammer to come here?

[jno]

I expect he does, yes. It's quite likely that Brexit will mean no fewer immigrants to do the low paid work. So will Brits then do it instead? I don't know the answer to that.

[NoMercy]

Did he slam foul-mouthed Brits at the same time?

[jno]

he doesn't seem impressed by the ones who order cocaine on their soufflés

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2017/oct/10/cocaine-use-rife-restaurant-trade-says-gordon-ramsay

[mikey4444]

The reality AOG, is that most British unemployed will not work in his trade and many others, as they will get more money, staying at home and lazing around on benefits...... ie Dole bludgers

[Old_Geezer]

It depends on the incentive. If welfare is just a safety net then folk are almost obliged to look after their own interests. If it's a comfortable life then the incentive disappears. Folk who want to live off the State are probably a small percentage though. That stated the wages for a full time job must be sufficient for the UK or the incentive will be to get involved in criminal activity where one isn't being exploited by an uncaring employer.

As for Ramsey, he's being Mr. Alpha sounding off. If there's laziness it should be extended to those in management who claim they're worth their excessive high salary and we'd lose them otherwise, but who apparently can't even run a going concern well without importing cheap labour to make life easier for themselves.

[Islay]

Working in professional kitchens is very hard - saying that I could never complain at the money I earned whilst doing it - even whilst training.
I agree to him to a certain extent as I have worked with some very lazy brits and some very hard working multi national workers!
Some people want the money but not the hard work!

[EcclesCake]

My experience of restaurants high end and high street is that they all have migrant workers. Some of these workers consider themselves to be learning a trade that is respected in their home country. For some bizarre reason the U.K. deems this to be beneath them as a service trade.

[mikey4444]

Eccles...there is very little bizarre about this. British people can lazy about for generations, as Dole Bludgers. and do very well on it.

Foreign workers know this and that is why they are here to do the jobs that our resident unemployed won't do.

Ditto with the fruit and veg that Ramsey and others will cook and serve....picked almost exclusively by immigrant labour.

[EcclesCake]

Mikey, you are putting an edge on my post that simply isn't there.

Have your opinion but please do not draw me into your political diatribe.

[ludwig]

// British people can lazy about for generations, as Dole Bludgers. and do very well on it. //

It's called the welfare state Mikey. I thought you were a fan.

[ummmm]

I've worked with various nationalities and in my experience the laziest wasn't the British

[mikey4444]

Ludwig...of course I am a fan of the welfare state. But people shouldn't be able to spend their whole lives on benefits, whilst there are jobs available. I trust you would carp about that ?

[-Talbot-]

I've worked with many Germans who think I'm nuts for the amount of manual work I do ... they get a machine for nearly everything.
Oh and they put far fewer hours in than I do.

I suppose that makes them lazy

[Smowball]

Working in professional kitchens is incredibly hard work - just watching any TV programme with the staff wearing those heavy cotton whites has me sweltering just looking at them!

[naomi24]

Mikey, //of course I am a fan of the welfare state. But people shouldn't be able to spend their whole lives on benefits, whilst there are jobs available. //

But that's exactly what the welfare state in its current form creates. You're the first to complain when changes are suggested.

[anotheoldgit]

mikey4444

Perhaps it is because those 'lazy Brits' that you and others are going on about can receive more on benefits than by working in these low paid jobs.

Perhaps your hated Tories should reduce their benefits?

Wait a minute though aren't you Labour lovers always going on about the Tory cuts in benefits?

Another thing that you should be careful about mikey and that is the fact that 'Lazy Brits' come in all skin colours.

[Old_Geezer]

Foreign workers know the pay here is much better than in their native country so it's worth more to them than it is to a UK native. Also they've probably had difficulty earning a good standard of living in their native country so have developed an acceptance of working hard to try to improve their life. Whilst we're one of the countries that has achieved an expectation of a higher quality of life, and so feel work ought not to be such a large portion of it; reducing it so that family and self time is a greater portion.

I think it too easy to blame UK workers for not wanting to accept any position, working environment, or wage. Or claim their refusal to do so is the cause of bringing in those willing to do so from abroad. We have a national labour market, one should let it work well, subject to minimum standards, not allow companies to short circuit it.

[ludwig]

// people shouldn't be able to spend their whole lives on benefits, whilst there are jobs available. I trust you would carp about that ? //

Yes I would. It sounded a bit strange coming from you though because you're so opposed to the govts austerity drive.

[Old_Geezer]

Cuts in benefits have tended to hit those that need and depend on them. Getting the right balance isn't easy but welfare needs to provide where needed and not overprovide to those who should be contributing to society and the public purse. Of course we also need to force employers to pay a true 'living wage' and not expect their underpayment, and their excuses that their business venture isn't viable without that, to top up the wage shortfall in benefits.

[anotheoldgit]

mikey4444

/// British people can lazy about for generations, as Dole Bludgers. and do very well on it. ///

In the unlikely hood that we get a Labour government, will the first thing they bring in, is for unemployment benefits to only be payable for a very short period and at a much smaller rate than they are now?