American Police Should Be Trained By Our Bobbies.

[chrissa1]

Having seen the shooting dead of a black man who ran away from an American Cop who was trying to arrest him for drink driving, (not the most heinous crime in the world), why is the first thought of an American cop faced with an escapee, is to shoot him dead?

I think our policemen should offer their services to the whole of America’s police force.

[Peter Pedant]

I think it is because it is lawful to

[chrissa1]

What on earth do you mean, pp?

[ChillDoubt]

To be fair, our Police don't face the same daily occurrences as US Police forces.

Anyone remember when a Police SWAT Team turned up at a bank robbery in LA and were outgunned by the firepower of the criminals?

[woofgang]

chrissa its one of their options. For the officer concerned, he may judge it as the most expedient option, the fastest, the easiest and so on...they carry guns and are allowed to do it.

[woofgang]

no I don't...have you got a link?

[ChillDoubt]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Hollywood_shootout

[woofgang]

oh...so recent news then?

[sanmac]

Chrissa, I realize that you asked sort of a hypothetical question, but I imagine, with their gung-ho attidude, the majority of American cops would view British cops as boy-scouts wearing blue uniforms, silly hats, and yellow vests marked "POLICE" to prove that they are cops. Their attitude towards policing is vastly different.

[royfromaus]

andy...

[retrocop]

I was a trained police officer and for many years in the latter half of my service always carried a handgun and sometimes,when in cars,a Carbine. For a start I volunteered for the dept which I knew carried firearms as a matter of course. U.S. cops don't get the choice. My background was examined and judged to see if I was psychologically suited to be placed in a position to make life/death decisions. I was asked how my wife felt about me carrying firearms and perhaps being called to use them. I underwent extensive courses and used camera ranges and 'Hogan's Alley ranges to see who I judged worthy of eliminating or who was the goody/hostage.
The U.S. cops have been dealing with drugged up, messed up,boozed up, gun toting morons longer than law enforcement in this country existed. I don't feel I am experienced enough to tell them how they should deal with the different situations that arise on a daily basis in their country. I have drawn my weapon on several occasions, survived and didn't pull the trigger so I can live happily ever after and shoot my rifles to my hearts content at paper targets and go home to my loved ones after the only sport I am still fit enought to enjoy.
As they say in the States though. Any police officer in the UK who shot a fleeing suspect in the back and could not justify fear of their own life then their 'ass is grass'.

[sanmac]

Retro, I do hope that you don't think that my previous post was in any way denigrating the British police. It was just my opinion of what most U.S. police officers would think.

[Spicerack]

The British Police are a Common Purpose joke.

[THECORBYLOON]

Really?

[retrocop]

Thanks spicey. As an ex officer I hope I can see my experience as a big joke. You certainly require a sense of humour dealing with your usual low life idiots. :-)

[retrocop]

Sanmac
Not at all my friend. No offence taken. I was trained and expected to take it in any case. Nature of the job. :-)

[ChillDoubt]

oh...so recent news then?
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My answer was one of the relevance and vast differences between being a bobby on the beat in UK as opposed to what US Police forces face, which are eons apart.
Sadly, it would appear you are lacking the wherewithall to grasp that, so I'll leave it.

[ChillDoubt]

Maybe the US Police could teach our officers how to deal with a wild dog attacking them?
They wouldn't have suffered such a mauling, they'd have dealt with the matter in seconds.
And before you draw comparisons with shooting people, try and put this one in context first.

[LadyCG]

Is this the chap who grabbed one of the officers' tasers and pointed it at him?

Jeez, no wonder he got shot.

As for the other chappie, unnecessary force was used which culminated in his death but he was what he was, a druggie and violent criminal and thus the global feral uprising that followed was a disproportionate reaction.

Of course black lives matter but black people are more likely to commit serious crime and are more likely to resist arrest. They are certainly co-writers of their own misfortune.

[Spicerack]

As I said to Danny, yesterday, retro. I'm not criticising the force any of you chaps were in.
If anyone should be disgusted with state of the modern PC and politicised police, I'd have thought it would be you guys who served before Common Purpose infested and ruined it.

[jim360]

Why is that, do you think, CG?