I'm Horrified And Yet....

[Iamcazzy]

I've just been talking to my daughter who is in her mid twenties. The conversation was about boys trying their luck with girls of a similar age in pubs and clubs. Both my daughter and her best friend (female) are in steady relationship with male partners and the girls often go out "clubbing" together without their partners.
I asked her how she dealt with any unwanted approaches from men in these clubs and she told me that she merely tells these men that her and her best friend are "together". The unwanted male then promptly walks away.
I find this hilarious and effective from one angle, yet I know that if I said that in a club in my youth, I'd have been given a disapproving look and probably turfed out of there. I think that is what makes me horrified about it.
How times have changed!!

[jno]

it sounds as though they've changed for the better, though. Remember it if you should happen to go out with a friend yourself!

[anneasquith]

Times have changed, thankfully, but not enough to horrify surely .

[Mamyalynne]

Oh yes, it's a handy retort to rid yourself of unwanted advances and isn't new either.

[eleanor2]

It it works cazzy! ;0)

[Mamyalynne]

You must be going back a long way if you frequented clubs that would turf you out for being Gay.

[Iamcazzy]

Not that long Mamyalynne. I'm talking about the late sixties, early seventees. It's as well to remember that gay activities were illegal in the UK until 1967 between men and the so-called abhorence towards these activities were prevalent for some years in the seventees.

[Iamcazzy]

The attitude tended to encompasse women as well as men.

[Mamyalynne]

I was clubbing in the seventies, maybe we were easier going in the North West - my Girls are in their forties and I know they have used the ploy too.

[ummmm]

I've used it too and I'm in my 40s.

[dannyk13]

I was a policeman in Bradford in the 60s and many of the gay community were known to me but I cannot remember any instance of gay men or women having any problems with attending clubs or pubs.

[jackthehat]

In my experience, when you tell men that you and your female companion are 'together' it acts as a cue for them to start asking all sorts of rude, intrusive questions, make lewd suggestions and treat you with complete disrespect....

[andy-hughes]

jack - // In my experience, when you tell men that you and your female companion are 'together' it acts as a cue for them to start asking all sorts of rude, intrusive questions, make lewd suggestions and treat you with complete disrespect.... //

I have discussed this with a gay friend of mine, and she concurs that she has received a similar response when advising men that she is gay and not interested.

Apparently in her experience, I was unique in being the only man she knew who, on being told she was gay, exhibited no lurid curiosity about her sex life, because, as I told her, unlike what appears to be the vast majority of my gender, I am not at all aroused by the notion of two women sharing intimacy together.

I am afraid men always have and continue to - let themselves down in trying to strike up conversations with young ladies they don't know.

I believe they are raised by fathers who give them something along the lines of "You'll never understand women son, I never have …" which leads them to treat women as some alien species, instead of simple individuals like themselves.

[eve1974]

Although of course there are a lot of blokes that would find the idea EXTRA appealing. Either for the additional challenge to "change the girls mind" or because they've watched too many unrealistic threesomes in porno's Lol!

[Sqad]

3 terms that were never used in my day:
Clubbing
Together
Tried it on.
Clubbing was a dance at the Youth Club.
Together, rarely used in the context of this thread.
"Tried it on" was replaced by a polite request.

Yes,how times have changed.

[andy-hughes]

eve - // Either for the additional challenge to "change the girls mind" or because they've watched too many unrealistic threesomes in porno's Lol! //

I would say eighty percent the latter, and twenty percent the former.

What sad creatures men are!!!!!!

[Baldric]

We have a gay couple living with us, once they close their bedroom door I for one have no interest in what they got up to, and I doubt that Kate or Tash do either tbh.

[royfromaus]

Well, andy, barring you of course.

You know...not all gay women think alike. My elder sister had two gay friends that teased me relentlessly.
It was just banter as far as I was concerned and I guess even gay women like a bit of banter.

[andy-hughes]

roy - // You know...not all gay women think alike. //

Are you sure about that?

I was always convinced that they did!!!

Well, all the ones I've ever seen, which is one who looks like Bob the Builder and the other one who looks like Angelina Jolie, certainly do!!!!!

Goodness, you learn something every day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Baldric]

You can be very unworldly at times Andy, and this is one of them.

[Iamcazzy]

I do accept that there may have been regional variations about how pubs and clubs looked upon this in the sixties and seventees and I'd concede it wasn't the same everywhere. All the same, during those years I went to clubs and pubs in nearby cities and I know the doormen would not allow stag or hen parties in most of them. Yes, these places were OK with women dancing around their handbags on the dance floor and even dancing together but the clientele was always mixed. Smooching with another female was always frowned upon in my experience during those years but I can understand it wasn't the same everywhere.