Women Submariners

[Khandro]

Is a submarine a sensible place for women?
https://www.barrons.com/articles/uk-navy-probes-claims-of-sexual-harassment-on-submarines-01667039406

[davebro]

Yes - we should have all-woman subs.

[Peter Pedant]

is this victim blaming

[jno]

it's the men who are behaving badly. Put them in charge of rowing boats and let the women get on running the subs.

[pastafreak]

It's not women that are the problem, is it?

[davebro]

Why would a submarine be different from a surface ship in regard to male/female crew interaction?

[jno]

no escape route?

[Old_Geezer]

It's a potential problem whenever you have mixed sex groupings. As is usual it is the male trying to get with the female, it's how evolution steered things, but control should still be applied and not excused for. But the issue can be solved by management ensuring a crew only consists of folk who don't find their colleagues sexually attractive.

[Atheist]

Good idea OG.

One L, one G, one B, one T, one Q, and one + might do it.

[davebro]

//ensuring a crew only consists of folk who don't find their colleagues sexually attractive.//

Or only hire ugly women?

[gness]

Nowhere is a sensible place for a woman to work if there are immature and lecherous men employed there.

As for....we should expect to see sexualised behaviour transferred from the normal workplace to submarines. Says much about Chris Parry.

[tomus42]

Women have to put up with this kind of garbage in lots of places, not just submarines. That being the case you have wonder whether the planet earth is a sensible place for them.

Probably better to punish the bullies rather than move the victims somewhere else.

[wolf63]

I didn't know that women were now allowed on submarines.

The submarines are underwater and away from home for months at a time. There is no reason that woman would be unsuitable for the job.

However ...
The males are the problem - they are weak in general. I believe that the issue is the recycled air and the pheromones that women create (unknowingly)

I can't think of a solution apart from castrating all the males who want to be submariners or have crews only of the same sex.

I wonder how other countries deal with this issue.

[pastafreak]

The OP has yet to express his views. Waiting patiently.

[gness]

I think maybe Wolf has scared him, Pasta. :-)

[davebro]

// wonder how other countries deal with this issue.//

Other countries probably don't have the wokery that compels them to have women on sumarines.

[Sqad]

Nothing to do with submarines.
When hormone fuelled hunams are in direct contact, then this is the perfect medium for sexual interplay.
When male and female humans are enclosed in a restrictive environment then sex is inevitable.

[wolf63]

sqad - I think women are more capable of engaging their brains than guys.
As my late mother would say, and she was never wrong, men may be physically stronger than women but women are stronger mentally.

[jno]

I don't see why rape lists should be inevitable. Offenders should be invited to step outside.

[fender62]

in an ideal world it should be respect and do your bloody job properly in any service, sexual harassment shows the kind of servicemen any armed forces do not need, sacked forwith.

[Sqad]

//ensuring a crew only consists of folk who don't find their colleagues sexually attractive.//

/////Or only hire ugly women?////

Problem is that with an increasing time without sex, then even "ugly women" become attractive.