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another dead baby, why are the social services full of dim lefties with no clue? 50 visits and they could spot a bruise between them. Too ready to believe the parents. They recruit these numpties out of the Guardian, is it one of those paradoxes, that the people that apply for these jobs are those that are least suited to doing them? Bl00dy doctors that can't spot broken bones. WTF is occurring? The poor little sod must have been screaming his head off.
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I was brought up in the care system so saw first hand the incompetence of many social workers. I considered going into the profession myself when I left school but was strongly discouraged by my careers officer at school,he said the interview to get onto the course was very personal and as soon as they heard I had been in children's homes and foster homes all my life I would be denied a place. :(
Aolmost made me physically sick when I read the account of this poor tots life.
I've had plent of experience with these people in Socoal Services, can't tar everyonrs with the same brush, but too many of them get their knowledge out of books, and have no children of their own, and also adhere too strictly to the 'Human Rights Bill', and are so afraid of getting it wrong, that conversely, they just make cursory checks, and all too often, someone, in this case this child, loses its life in the most horrific circumstanses.
What can be done, I think, make these people responsible for their own actions, and teach them how to do their job properly, and not to be afraid of taking responsibility for their actions.
Obviously, there are other people involved also, doctors etc, I won't comment on those yet, take too long.
I've had plent of experience with these people in Socoal Services, can't tar everyonrs with the same brush, but too many of them get their knowledge out of books, and have no children of their own, and also adhere too strictly to the 'Human Rights Bill', and are so afraid of getting it wrong, that conversely, they just make cursory checks, and all too often, someone, in this case this child, loses its life in the most horrific circumstanses.
What can be done, I think, make these people responsible for their own actions, and teach them how to do their job properly, and not to be afraid of taking responsibility for their actions.
Obviously, there are other people involved also, doctors etc, I won't comment on those yet, take too long.
Social workers cannot remove children - only the courts and police can do that.
The other side of the coin:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/leadi ng_article/article4282019.ece
Be very angry about this - but put the blame squarely on the individuals that did it, not the authorities.
The other side of the coin:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/leadi ng_article/article4282019.ece
Be very angry about this - but put the blame squarely on the individuals that did it, not the authorities.
The doctor was Saudi born, anyone know where she was educated?
This council is so obsessed with PC eg race relations and feminism that it couldn't find its ar*e with both hands.
Its easy to see where all this comes from. Been reading the sociology course books to help my daughter to become a nurse and it makes my blood boil. It is so left wing that it is unbelievable. My daughter pointed this out in one of her essays and caused a right stink at the collge. You are right R1, social work is infultrated by useless lefties.
This council should be dissolved, all the social workers sacked and never be allowed to hold a public post again. This is not the first time this council has done this on this scale.
If I had my way they would be prosecuted just as a director is for negligent death of an employee. But waht do we get - jut all the wummin ganging together and saying 'lessons learnt' Wasnt that what they said after the quimby case?
This council is so obsessed with PC eg race relations and feminism that it couldn't find its ar*e with both hands.
Its easy to see where all this comes from. Been reading the sociology course books to help my daughter to become a nurse and it makes my blood boil. It is so left wing that it is unbelievable. My daughter pointed this out in one of her essays and caused a right stink at the collge. You are right R1, social work is infultrated by useless lefties.
This council should be dissolved, all the social workers sacked and never be allowed to hold a public post again. This is not the first time this council has done this on this scale.
If I had my way they would be prosecuted just as a director is for negligent death of an employee. But waht do we get - jut all the wummin ganging together and saying 'lessons learnt' Wasnt that what they said after the quimby case?
More disturbing than the social workers' incompetence is the fact that the child was presented to hospital with eight broken ribs and probably a broken back, and none of those injuries were detected.
Social workers are bound by their rules and regulations which seem designed more to protect the workers and their employers (from possible litigation) than the vulnerable people they are supposed to help. It is about time that this was remedied but it is unlikely to be cured under the current climate.
Nonetheless Ethel is quite right. All too often the real villains are overlooked and the public�s fury is vented on people like social workers. Whilst they may well have been incompetent, inefficient or negligent, it was not they who caused the child to die.
Social workers are bound by their rules and regulations which seem designed more to protect the workers and their employers (from possible litigation) than the vulnerable people they are supposed to help. It is about time that this was remedied but it is unlikely to be cured under the current climate.
Nonetheless Ethel is quite right. All too often the real villains are overlooked and the public�s fury is vented on people like social workers. Whilst they may well have been incompetent, inefficient or negligent, it was not they who caused the child to die.
How exactly are SS NOT to blame.. they were there to protect the child and FAILED to the worst possible level. Heads should roll.. theirs and the sorry excuses of the Parents of this poor baby.
Lock them all up - then maybe they can sit and have a long think about what they SHOULD have done! Including the Mother!
Jees what is wrong with people. It makes me so very very angry! That poor baby.... the suffering... words cannot describe! Rest in peace little one! You're safe now.
Lock them all up - then maybe they can sit and have a long think about what they SHOULD have done! Including the Mother!
Jees what is wrong with people. It makes me so very very angry! That poor baby.... the suffering... words cannot describe! Rest in peace little one! You're safe now.
If Social Services cannot protect a child after 60 visits who can they protect? Maybe they should be dis-banded and just give up seeing as that local authority in particular also failed Victoria Climbie.....
After Victoria Climbie died - her parents rallied so that another child qould never suffer the same fate. Yet the SAME division of SS failed to protect another child in danger.
YES the parents should both rot in hell for ever now without release... but the reason SS is there is to protect those children who dont have voices! Where were they?
Even the NSPCC cant get involved in child protection cases without SS having done their investigations first - why oh why are we leaving the decision making to these useless sacks of Sh1tt.....
They should all be ashamed they didnt do more!
After Victoria Climbie died - her parents rallied so that another child qould never suffer the same fate. Yet the SAME division of SS failed to protect another child in danger.
YES the parents should both rot in hell for ever now without release... but the reason SS is there is to protect those children who dont have voices! Where were they?
Even the NSPCC cant get involved in child protection cases without SS having done their investigations first - why oh why are we leaving the decision making to these useless sacks of Sh1tt.....
They should all be ashamed they didnt do more!
Are you including the Police in this catch-all Guardian reading lefties rant?
Assault charges against the mother were dropped by the police 24 hours before the child's death. If they had done their duty, and she was charged and convicted, the child would have been taken away from her and her sadistic boyfriend.
"Police have also admitted 'errors were made' during that investigation."
I am not saying the council did not make errors, they did. But others, who cannot be labelled lefties could have also protected this child and they also failed in their duties.
Assault charges against the mother were dropped by the police 24 hours before the child's death. If they had done their duty, and she was charged and convicted, the child would have been taken away from her and her sadistic boyfriend.
"Police have also admitted 'errors were made' during that investigation."
I am not saying the council did not make errors, they did. But others, who cannot be labelled lefties could have also protected this child and they also failed in their duties.
If you like Gromit, but I would say they had a minor role in the negligence compared to the social services. Even if the old Bill did arrest them they'd have soon been back home after their non punishment and the kid would have been given back. Try and deflect the argument if you like but even you must be able to see what complete and utter morons the social services are in this. Even after this case they all seem to be more interested in making excuses and passing blame than hanging their useless heads in shame.
I worked (temp) in Children & Families Unit in the Local Authority for a month and I was sickened. I saw Social Workes in TEARS in the office having not been given permission by their bosses to carry out things they believed were right. These Social Workers worked their asses off and really cared. I couldnt handle more than a month in that place.
Actuall weeal, you've got me thinking (I do it occasionally)...
Maybe the SS officers who visited the house did notice something was very very wrong in that family, but on reporting their findings to the powers that be, they were told their hands were tied by some fat overpaid twonk sat in an office who's more bothered about "offending" someone than saving a child's life?
Maybe the SS officers who visited the house did notice something was very very wrong in that family, but on reporting their findings to the powers that be, they were told their hands were tied by some fat overpaid twonk sat in an office who's more bothered about "offending" someone than saving a child's life?
Hi BOO I have seen this happen, even in the short spell I worked there. I had to take minutes in the meetings and hated every minute of that.
There were around 20 social workers in that office and all working till god knows what time of night and weekends, inundated (which just shows the state of current society eh) but ultimately they had to go by the "rules" and not just within their own departments. Quite often in a meeting there were folk from various professions all discussing what to do.
There were around 20 social workers in that office and all working till god knows what time of night and weekends, inundated (which just shows the state of current society eh) but ultimately they had to go by the "rules" and not just within their own departments. Quite often in a meeting there were folk from various professions all discussing what to do.
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