whats a more valuable qualification/ degree?

[AutomaticGal]

a basic bechelorsdegree AND an Mcomp de(masters of computing) degree

or

a bachelor honars degree and a MSc ( masters) degree?

[dove]

whilst im watching the news at the moment, i would say that the most valuable qualification nowadays is common sense!!
does any one have any anymore?

[AutomaticGal]

lol... Touch�

haha

[buildersmate]

Rather less difference between these two options than which niversity awarded the degree. I.e. a proper univ versus a jumped-up former college now awarding degrees.

[AutomaticGal]

Kingston Univercity!! go KINGSTON WOO lol

[buildersmate]

You must be sitting waiting to pounce on any replies you receive.
Use the relative impartial ST guide to 'judge' the value of the awarding authority. It does depend on subject, but Kingston University (nee Kingston Poly) doesn't count as a real university in my book.

[AutomaticGal]

hey!!! kingston rocks! i was acceptd into queen maries and kings college but i said NO lol :D kingston is bestfor IT related coursed . they just spend 20million on a building just four our faculty.

[factor-fiction]

The ability to spell basic words and use reasonably correct grammar is also regarded as a useful skill, and is probably more important to an employer than any Masters degree.

[buildersmate]

LOL, Factor. :))

[funnygirl]

I agree with Factor.

I am shocked at the number of people here in my job who cannot spell!!

[factor-fiction]

The ability to spell correctly and write reasonably correct English is less important than it used to be for many careers but I doubt many employers would be impressed by any job applicant who said he/she had an "honars degree" and mentioned "queen maries college".

[AutomaticGal]

Whoa! I apologise in my cousins behalf. I was discussing my problem with him and he posted this question up without me knowing. However, Kingston University has 90% successful employment for computing, information systems & mathematic graduate students, which I say is pretty high. Kingston U is in the top 70 universities in the UK for Computer related subjects; now consider that there are over 170 universities in the UK, it�s not doing badly. Personally, I do regret not accepting seats from places like Kings College London or Queen Mary�s but my parents did not want me travelling that far and back every day and staying in a dorm is simply out of the question. Being an only child they are extremely over protective. Trust me it�s a nightmare; accepting a place in Kingston my best bet. Heck I�ve only just completed my first year and came out with 5 A�s and 3 B�s and have been transferred into a masters degree already.

The now I was just thinking whether to continue to study the integrated degree or study them separately. Studying them separately I add on an extra year but I have the guarantee that I get a bachelor honours degree and then I can study for a MSc. Doing the integrated degree I save a year and come out with a Masters of computing (MComp), but if I muck up the MComp I just receive a basic bachelors degree. Now I know that I won�t muck up so badly that I won�t even get a 2.2 MComp, but there is an element of risk.

Also consider.... to take the MSc degree after the BSc will be my choice. But the uni offered me this MComp after looking at my talent......
What to do...?
Ok I think I have gone on for a bit too long. I'll shut up now.
Take care all X

[dove]

well thats shut everyone up lol
good luck in whatever you decide x

[AutomaticGal]

lol, thank you :D

[buildersmate]

Lest you think I was 'getting' at Kingston University, then I'm happy to confirm that I am not. You seem to have checked out exactly what I would have done - the Sunday Times Best University guide is a good way to find out about this - but you have done your research.
All I am saying is that recruiters / employers do know which universities / faculties are better than others for their subjects. Also generally you can work it out from the entrance grade requirements - the better unies can and do demand higher grades.
Good luck with it.

[Ethel]

Masters degrees aren't usually rated 1st class, 2:1, 2:2 and so on

I would worry about a faculty that accepted students on a masters without a first degree.

[saxy_jag]

I think Dove pretty much answered your question first off. It's not the title or level of your degree that matters so much as your ability to show and use what you've learnt during the process of gaining it. That's not just in terms of academic and subject content. That you are able to plan and manage projects and communicate effectively are just as important to an employer.

Just a consideration, however - would you qualify for entry to a Masters without an honours degree? I know a guy who wanted to study for a doctorate but couldn't because he didn't have a high enough grade for his Masters (by 'high enough grade' I mean that the university he applied to didn't think the uni that awarded the Masters was of a high enough standard).

[ugly_bob]

Ethel, It's quite a common thing for Masters degrees to not require a batchelors first.
Usually, it will be a 4 year taught Masters rather than a 3 year Batchelors course.
I believe ( but not 100% ) that these end with the qualification being MEng, MComp, MMath etc with the award being more subject specific than traditional MSc and MA awards.
In the end, it's up to the university to decide how to award their qualifications. Indeed, I believe it's possible to gain a Masters from Oxford/Cambridge with only 3 years study plus a couple of years relevant experience afterwards.