selective entry schools

[joggerjayne]

Isn't it time that all schools had a "selective entry" system ... by entry exams, and interviews ?

That way, the children who wanted to learn could be educated together, without their classes being disrupted.

The children who just wanted to d!ck around until they are 16 could also be "educated" together, and taught skills more suitable to their predispositions.

[ummmm]

No....there are also plenty of children that want to learn but are not blessed with high intelligence. They should be given a better chance than be stuck with the ones that want to d1ck around.

[joggerjayne]

But they would be offered places after their interviews, even if they did not fly through the entry exams.

They could then concentrate on the task of learning which, for them, might be quite a challenge, without the distraction of all the oiky chavs being dumped on their school by the Local Education Authority.

[ummmm]

But what if they lack confidence and mess the interview up?

[joggerjayne]

A good school should be able to tell the difference between a child who fluffs the interview, and a child who will be a troublemaker.

[McMouse]

All over the third world kids and their parents know the importance of education and will make every sacrifice to get to school. Here in UK we have loads of "losers" who treat school as a joke and p1ss around until they are 16. I would tell these kids they have so many weeks to wise up and behave before sending them to an exclusion unit. They would then have the chance to win back their place at regular school by exhibiting good behaviour etc. Any futher transgression would have them returned to the exclusion unit where they would remain.
This would free up the schools for kids who wanted to learn.

[ummmm]

My sons school has a zero tolerance on bad behaviour in class. They are sent to a room where they have to work alone in a cubicle...so they cannot see anyone but the teacher.

[annie0000]

Ummmm - surely that's a violation of his human rights!

[ummmm]

Why is it? It's removing a disruptive child. They have to sign contracts when they start as well.

[joggerjayne]

annie ... NOT removing him is a violation of the human rights of ALL the other children.

It is a fundamental principle that there is no right without a corresponding obligation.

If you fail to fulfil the obligation to behave, then you forfeit the right to stat in class.

[annie0000]

joking Ummmm. I'd put them all in solitary for even thinking about being disruptive. Once overheard a parent talking after parents night saying "They said that she misbehaves in class and asked me what I was going to do about it - I just said that it was their problem and she's not the only one". If I found out that one of my kids was misbehaving in class, there would be harsh consequences at home and they certainly would not do it again.

[ummmm]

Can I just add....he's actually a good boy and has only been removed a few times since he started almost 3 years ago.

Gingers nephew is always in there....lol

[annie0000]

It was tongue in cheek JJ - I was expecting the wrath of the PC brigaid so thought I would stir it up!

[ummmm]

Oh I punish mine.....and I've got the best punishment tool now. World of warcraft :-)

[annie0000]

The schools need the support at home - my kids (P5 and P4) have never lost a minute of golden time ........ever. They however have to put up with kids who are not interested and whose parents don't care. I couldn't be a teacher - I'd be in jail by now ;o).

[annie0000]

Yes Ummm - loss of screen time is the main punishment in our house. My younger son lost his screen time for a week because he was seen crossing the main road when he is not allowed to. The two boys he was with got nothing. He hasn't done it again.

[joggerjayne]

No, I haven't got anything to tell you, No_Kno ... I'm past that age now.

annie ... my apologies ... I took your post too literally ... x

[ummmm]

Absolutely....like I say to my kids...you're a reflection on me, you'd better behave.

My youngest (11) has never even been told off. He can be a right brat at home though...

[annie0000]

no worries JJ - should have made it more obvious, I don't know what the e-motion is for tongue in cheek or stirring.

[cazzz1975]

surprised at the Q, when I was childress I didnt give a monkeys what happened in school, bad maybe but it wasnt relevant until I had kids in school.