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Thanks all - sorry for tardy reply - I posted Q yesterday but then only re-logged on today. Yeah, his dad and I have told him if he has no luck soon then he needs to think about volunteering. This will give him experience and show future employers he isn't lazy and wanting handouts. with regards his education, (factor 30). No he did try hard at school but...he has always, always struggled. despite extra lessons privately paid for etc. In our opinion he is (like alot of youngsters which is shocking) only functionally literate!!! However give him summat practical and does very well.