Minimum of 15 years for stabbing a MP.

[anotheoldgit]

http://tinyurl.com/38vz2e9

This evil act was carried out by a so called 'intelligent moderate Muslim' who was an outstanding student who had been expected to achieve a first-class honours degree,

It all goes to show how ridiculous dangerous the following such phrase is, 'These acts are carried out by so called 'extremist Muslims', but most are hard working intelligent 'moderate Muslims'.

If such acts can be carried out by very well educated doctors and in this case a student who intended to become a teacher.(would you have liked her to teach your children?) what hope have we?

/// She had been a moderate Muslim student looking forward to a career in teaching before watching the videos.///

If well educated moderate Muslims are capable of such treachery, what of the others?

/// After the sentence was passed, a group of men began shouting in the public gallery 'Allahu akbar' ('God is great'), 'British go to hell' and 'Curse the judge'. A demonstration was also taking place outside the court.///

I wonder how many of these will end up in court or even arrested?

[sandyRoe]

It's said that there are about 2 million Muslims in the UK. How many of them have committed an act of political violence? 50 or 100, perhaps?
A tiny minority. You can't tar them all with the same brush.

[anotheoldgit]

Would you like the job of separating them sandy?

/// 50 or 100, perhaps? ///

Have they stopped now, or are they increasing their recruitment campaign, do you know?

[Sqad]

red......I thought Lucy´s answer was quite funny.....it was "tongue in cheek"

[anotheoldgit]

redhelen

I think Lucy was merely making a statement, I can't see where she gave out any information.

[B00]

For once AOG, I don't find myself shaking my head at your logic.

[ummmm]

People have been saying that alot lately :-)

[sandyRoe]

We have a police service to sort the sheep from the goats. I'd still say that the Muslim community is as law abiding as any other. Maybe even more so.

[Sqad]

sandy.....I think that you are probably correct.

I have just sat for 10minutes asking myself if I would either face at 2.am in a quiet part of the UK. a bunch of Muslims or a bunch of drunken Brits and I cannot come up with an answer.

The only point that I can make to satisfy myself is "that it is UK today"....so who cares who beats me up.

[jaydah]

"Choudhry was a high-flying university student at King's College London"

Expensively educated by the public purse no doubt ? If the intelligent islamics can't see sense what hope have we.

[anotheoldgit]

sqad

Why did the Brits have to be drunk?

I think sqad has brought up a question, It's a dark night, and one finds themselves in a lonely part of the city.

Who would cause you more anxiety, a gang of.------------- or a gang of------------?

Truthful answers please

[Sqad]

AOG

<<<<Why did the Brits have to be drunk? <<<

Tell me you are joking.

[MickyMacgraw]

Anotheroldgit, the news report say she "She had been a moderate Muslim student looking forward to a career in teaching before watching the videos"
Isn't that the same as saying ie. "He only started on his murderous serial killing spree after watching horror films and listening to Marilyn Manson"?
The point I'm trying to make is that certain people are already mentally predisposed to do acts of violence and some only need the trigger. Then again do we know for a fact that this woman was only set off by the videos she watched or that she always hated and she planning from a long time ago to "hurt the west' in any way shape or form? We don't know. Also your surprise that she was a well educated doctor amused me, if you've watched the news then you surely must've heard of Chemical sally during the end of Saddam Husseins reign? I can assure you that there are many educated physicists, scientists and doctors etc. That hate the west and would love to be involved in seeing the west hurt so they're not all a bunch of fist shaking bearded mountain dwelling tribeleaders. Our enemy is a many headed chameleon and so we have to be vigilant on all fronts but as sandyroe said we can not all tar people all with the same brush.
Jaydah I work with many Arabs that come here to study and they pay from their own bottomless pockets.

[ummmm]

Sqad....not everyone lives in a town centre so most of what goes on at the weekend is missed by us (unless I'm involved of course..lol)

AOG...I would honestly say that I wouldn't know where the group was from. I can't say really...

[anotheoldgit]

sqad, pinkilady,

<<<<Why did the Brits have to be drunk? <<<

/// Tell me you are joking.///

It just made me wonder, why did you only put 'a bunch of Muslims but a bunch of drunken Brits'?

Why did you shy away from saying "a bunch of crazed Muslims"?

In a similar context, would you have put a bunch of drugged blacks?