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factor-fiction,I appreciate your ongoing assistance in this but I believe I may have confused you as well as bm,I do still have legal representation but.........I don't know if at the moment I should expand on this topic or trust to my own judgement and pursue,this is pretty much the course taken so far and by far the best by results/expediency.My involvement in this case is to defend my mother against adjacent neighbors who,without recourse to traditional methods like an offer to buy,have used the alternative method of turn up nine handed and rip all my mothers allotment plants flowers etc out (well videoed) and construct an ever evolving set of 'witness' statements in support of.They need access for a development nearby apparently,No evidence on their part,just statements from the 'usual suspects' rentawitness scheme. I've just located and adduced ariel images from '62 to '88 in steps and hope this does the trick and modified 'particulars of claim' to take account of this,my idea not our advocates.She's had no use of her allotment since 9/09 and at 86,in my opinion,could do with the continued activity she gained from this garden. Neither my mother nor I have ever been guilty of telling a lie in court unlike the claimants who all test positive on this and that's one reason why it's best I don't expand on my opinion of how this has been defended. I've always said if additional info was asked for by you it would be forthcoming,any links,threads to a place to find honest legal advice would be very much appreciated.The decision I regard as potentially unlawful is a planning inspectorate decision that is not directly linked to this civil case,it's just coincidental has the same witnesses as objectors surely,,,,,,,,,,,,, Hmm. Say no more,I'll update tomorrow,thanks for the help and if you're allowed to recommend please do.