Is There Any Difference...

[janzman]

...between being 'told' to do something and being 'ordered' to do something as in shutting pubs restaurants etc. What are the consequences of non compliance with being 'told' to close and disobedience in ignoring an 'order' to close.

[Zacs-Master]

Our local authority is saying that people’s licenses will be revoked and a dine issued if they continue to trade

[Zacs-Master]

Fine

[ummmm]

I feel sorry for them. This is how they make their living.

[ummmm]

I bet the shelves will soon be empty of alcohol.

[douglas9401]

No difference in my house, hence the adoption of 'she who must be obeyed'.

Consequences? Unlimited sanctions of her choosing with no regard for natural justice or suffering.

[rockyracoon]

"I bet the shelves will soon be empty of alcohol."
Apparently, our Tesco ran out of booze yesterday evening.

[diddlydo]

Virtually no booze (or anything else) in a small Sainsburys this morning. Plenty in Waitrose!

[Ken4155]

I guess being told to do something means you ought to comply, whether or not you agree. Being ordered to do something means you damn well better obey. If you don't do as you're told, you will be ordered to do so. If you disobey that order, sanctions of one sort or another will follow.

[Old_Geezer]

"Told" and "ordered" is just one of the confusions. A recent BBC website article stated they had to close Friday. Then the local radio claimed they already had to close. Then there's Wetherspoon's wanting to remain open as long as possible. Hard to work out who has the right story.

[Zacs-Master]

No it’s not.

[woofgang]

It was on friday(yesterday) that the order was enacted so both are right.

[Old_Geezer]

The website was confusing then. Having to do something on xxx suggests in the future, not the present.

[woofgang]

I think when the order was given, it was at close of business and it was given in the afternoon so it was in the future.

[Zacs-Master]

Unequivocally simple, OG. I’ve no idea why anyone should be confused

[ichkeria]

Being “told” and being “ordered” are exactly the same.
I think the point is that it is not legally binding, yet, but the police have been in to some pubs making sure they closed at midnight.

[Old_Geezer]

I'll try to explain to you Zacs.

If on Saturday one reads a new article just hours old saying something needs to be done on Friday, any logical individual takes that to mean the next Friday along.

If shortly after one hears from another source that the something is already done then there's a contradiction and any logical individual realises that there is something wrong.

Those unable to follow may not grasp the issue and remain unconfused.

I hope that's clarified it for you.

[Zacs-Master]

I didn’t need any explanation of your continued inability to grasp simple facts. But, thanks anyway.

[ichkeria]

Anyone confused by that probably shouldn’t be a pub owner :-)

[Old_Geezer]

Apparently you not only do need it, but can't comprehend my explanation either. But I'm not overly surprised.

[Zacs-Master]

Says the man who can’t grasp a simple concept (shrug emoji)