What Exactly Is The Problem With Nepotism?

[sandyRoe]

Why can't a chap try to find lucrative employment for his latest squeeze without attracting criticism?

[davebro]

Well - if someone else is paying them & you are supposed to select the best candidate for the job based on their experience & ability...

[Canary42]

It's sleazy.

[naomi24]

Canary, bet if it benefitted you, you wouldn't turn it down. Remember that old saying - 'It's not what you know, it's who you know'? That stands true across the board in all walks of life.

[Canary42]

///Canary, bet if it benefitted you, you wouldn't turn it down///

Been there, and done just that - refused it. But thank you for that slur on my morality, I expect it made you feel a lot better.

[naomi24]

Not at all. Very noble of you, Canary.

[Gromit]

If you are spending public money, then you must get the best person for the job.

Different if you own the business and are using your own money to employ a friend.

[Peter Pedant]

Because Boris ( oops no names, no names!) was using public money. If it were Boris n Daddy ( Armenia) and Co PLC (inc in Panama) no one would turn a hair.

Oh can I make a comment typical of the toffs and eggheads we find on AB ?
( foo yeah - one says - foo no scream a furder thousand)

when the Duke of Gandia was mairdered 1497 . Stabbed he was. His papa ( geddit) said, when a son dies a father can mourn cant he?

Giovanni Borgia, 2nd Duke of Gandía (1474 or 1476–1497) was the son of Pope Alexander VI and a member of the House of Borgia. He was murdered in 1497.
...
tis where the term nepotism comes from ( the sons of cardinals and priests were passed off as nephews)

have a good day fooing in this hot weather boys and gurlz

[sandyRoe]

If you walk the Camino across Spain you pass through a town called Viana. It's the burial place of Cesare Borgia. He was appointed Cardinal while still in his teens. He must have been a young man of remarkable talents and piety. I'm sure the fact that his father was Pope had nothing to do with his appointment to such a high office.

[1ozzy]

//Canary, bet if it benefitted you, you wouldn't turn it down.//

And yourself Naomi?

[Peter Pedant]

// Canary, bet if it benefitted you, you wouldn't turn it down.//
so no one ( except moi) has heard the phrase
no you cant do that, it looks bad

nope? - well says something about ABers

what about - - - Monica Lewinski and Clinton
Thatcher was like that when the whole of the North African Zoo-aves were turned out to look for the errant boy Mark
( Mark thatcher got lost on the Paree to Dakar race)

Barbara Castle went to cas er when she fell over
and was greeted by a consultant at the door ....(*)


Zola Budd and her visa to compete as a Brit
and doo-dah thingey said - it wdnt be like that if she were black ( i.e. it looked bad - thx to Dave Spart)

(*) Mr Thornton Holmes in 1973 accused The Babs of goning private and my god that DID look bad. She tried to sue. Prob was - - it was true

no you cant do that, it looks bad
useful phrase ABers - read and learn !

[lankeela]

Cesare Borgia - in the tv series - was a right tasty bit of eye candy!

[naomi24]

No, 1ozzy, I wouldn't turn it down.

[1ozzy]

Hmm, ok.

[Peter Pedant]

Oh yeah foo whilst I am at it
You know I claim to spik Arabic

Not in the Memoirs of an Egyptian Official by Lord Edward Cecil,
anywaaaaaay
The South African war 'broke out' 1899. Depends ( togo you reading?) whether you think it was engineered by Lord Milner(*) or one of his kindergarten (*) or Oom Paul Kruger who wanted to try out his...Loooong Tom ! (*) And there was no money to pay the British Army in Cairo where it was festering.
So Lord Cecil he gets up and he goes down to Baring Brothers (*) (not broke then see). Calls on one of the three brothers (+) there (one of the Trinity according to contemporary speech). Charles it was
Lord Cecil then presents a personal cheque ( 1899 it was I swear) for a million pound. an Charlie Boy he looks doubtful and asks "how do we know this will be paid honoured back home?"
Foo good huh?
and Lord Cecil answers " because my father is prime minister"

Yup boys and girls Lord Edward Gascoyne Cecil was pushing a pen across paper in Cairo long term whilst his Daydy became Prime Minister. Lord Salisbury

True story, I was told doing History O level 1965 and confirmed by an Egyptian 2000. I thought it was 1914 and Europe somewhere

It is not too dense to write about a Lord writing a cheque for a million 100 y ago and it was honoured.
Abers arent SOOOOO stupid they cant get it?

(*) chorus Foo ad lib
(+) bruvvuz - sozza ABers I dont know how you are going to make head or tail of this

I think it fits in quite well to 'Nepotism'

[Peter Pedant]

The Dook, Cesare, and Lucrezia were all a bit of a ckique
Cheers !

[Peter Pedant]

Blimey Chay-zar-ray
well in Andaloothis
Up a hill
Guadix to granada - is a Hill and castle on top
Hot and god windy
and inside - it was redecorated for Lucrezia Borgia
She didnt take up the post ( married around by her ambitious family) - -( no - someone poisoned her against the union - or someone just poisoned the intended spouse)

says in er Latin- - redecorated for Lucrezia Borgia around a marble Frieze

[Peter Pedant]

Bob's your uncle - - was it Field M Lord Roberts ( Bobs), quiet efficient and gave the Ruynecks a right royal rollicking
or was it:

In 1887, British Prime Minister Robert Gascoyne-Cecil appointed his nephew Arthur James Balfour as Minister for Ireland. The phrase 'Bob's your uncle' was coined when Arthur referred to the Prime Minister as 'Uncle Bob'. Apparently, it's very simple to become a minister when Bob's your uncle!

[Peter Pedant]

I knew Balfour came into it somewhere. I thought it was Balfour's son who passed the cheque for a million

The only problem was that Balfour's nickname in the commons was Lord Precious Petal or Lord Fanny - and that makes it kinda unlikely that he had political children

[DTCwordfan]

Is this a joke about nepotism? If so, I'll tell my children.....

[Peter Pedant]

yes erm
if you can understand it

You are OK with the Prime Minister Salisbury had a nephew Arthur Balfour who was a bit gay even for the Edwardians and this was one origin of Bobs your uncle

and nepos is Latin for nephew

OK if they arent Latinists I might give it a miss