Middle Class Parents Of White Islamic Convert Charged With Terrorism Offences

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3619837/Parents-Jihadi-Jack-charged-terrorism-offences.html

Here's on we can debate on, without the need for the racist card to be played.

[ToraToraTora]

Maybe they should go and visit him and determine for themselves what he's up to. They seem to be in denial over this at the moment.

[Gromit]

The couple have been highly critical of the authorities for months.

// But speaking at the family home last night, the close family member said: “There has been an avalanche of misinformation.
"We don't want to comment on all of this, but what I will say is that 95 per cent of what has been published is incorrect, it is desperately wrong.
"The only truth is that Jack is a Muslim and he is overseas. But everything else is made up and it is just getting worse.” //

The charge will only stick if they can prove that he is fighting for ISIS. They can only do that through evidence from the Security Services, who are often very shy about revealing what they know, and how they know it.

[sp1814]

AOG

That's very meta.

[jourdain2]

Quite right, too. He has committed an offence and they are aiding and abetting.

[Baldric]

Funding Terrorism, that's very, very naughty. Jail them!

[ummmm]

But if they truly don't believe he's involved in terrorism they aren't intentionally funding it.

[Baldric]

Bottom line says they are.

[RandyMarsh]

where is the 100% proof that he is involved in terrorism?, he could be running a baking business.

[Baldric]

Where is the 100% proof he isn't involved in Terrorism?

[ummmm]

Well until they have 100% proof is it really fair to accuse the parents of funding terrorism for sending their son money?

[Baldric]

Best ask the Police Force that charged them, they must have a reason for doing so.

[ummmm]

True....

[Gromit]

// Exclusive: Mr Letts tells The Independent that he is not a member of Isis but says he fears arrest if he returns to the UK.
A former Oxford schoolboy has denied reports he has joined Isis in an exclusive interview with The Independent.
In his first interview since reports accused him of becoming the first white British man to travel to Syria and join the jihadist group, Jack Letts insists he has travelled to the so-called Islamic State to spread the word of Allah and help "take down" the government of Bashar al-Assad.
"I can speak Arabic and English," he said. "That’s like my only skill. I’ve spent efforts to take down the Syrian government.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/jihadi-jack-letts-interview-former-oxford-schoolboy-denies-isis-calls-on-british-people-to-convert-a6843491.html

[webbo3]

He's not a member if ISIS he's just a very naughty boy.



Dave.

[Peter Pedant]

// Where is the 100% proof he isn't involved in Terrorism? //
and of course luckily in this country - you dont have to refute an allegation, the Crown has to show it ( beyond reasonable doubt )
thank god - still ....

unfortunately for terrorism - if you have knowledge of it you must declare it whereas most of the time you can cough politely and walk on by .....

Hmm interesting idea - if Johnnie Jihadi stands by a dam in Iraq and says " I am terroristen " does that make him a terrorist ?

and trying to send your son money would not of itself mean you are assisting or funding terrorism .....

[naomi24]

If I have this right he’s in IS controlled territory but he doesn’t support IS who are presumably ignoring him (very strange), and he is drawing money his parents are making available to him. That sounds just a little fishy to me. If he doesn’t support IS, why is he in territory controlled by them and who is he helping to take down the government the government of Bashar al-Assad?

I think it's possible that his parents are, understandably, in denial.

[Gromit]

If they are/have sent him money, it is unlikely to be large amounts. A few thousands, not tens or hundreds of thousands. It is British policy to remove Ssad, and he claims to be acting for the same result. It will be i teresting to see how this prosecution pans out, the parents don't look like they will just roll over in submission.

[anneasquith]

Could it be possible the concerned parents send cash to their son for his personal use ie day to day living expenses ?

[Quizproquo]

If they are so horrified by his choices they should not fund it.
If he is not involved, he should be horrified at what is happening to his parents (at the very least because of the risk of losing his cash cow) and this should be easily sorted out.
If none of that happens, maybe, who knows.

[naomi24]

anneasquith. I assume they are sending him money for his personal living expenses, as you say, and I think a lot of parents would do the same if their sons had run off to some far flung hell hole. However, in doing so they are enabling him to continue to do whatever it is he’s doing, and if that is construed by the authorities as being in cahoots with IS, then the parents are, in effect, funding terrorism.

Gromit, //It is British policy to remove Ssad, and he claims to be acting for the same result.//

But with whom is he working? He’s in IS territory and he hasn't been killed by IS, so it’s doubtful he’s working with ‘the good guys’.