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Paedophiles living in my area
I have been reliably informed (by staff), that a special needs care home in my village has 7 convicted paedophiles and two convicted rapists (one of whom has committed 12 rapes - 2 at knifepoint).
I am a mother of a ten-year-old boy and a three-year-old girl and am horrified that these predators are being housed in a community mostly made of young families and old people living alone.
I have always kept a close eye on my children, but my ten-year-boy is of an age where he goes out with his friends, and I no longer have the luxury of knowing where he is 24 hours a day.
The care home in question is situated some 1000 yards away froma playing field and half a mile away from a primary school and nursery - what braindead muppet thought that it would be a good idea to lump these "people" together where temptation is just a short walk away.
We live in the fens, near Wisbech, Cambs and there are many places that a paedophile or rapist could take a victim and they would not be seen or heard.
WHAT SORT OF COUNTRY DO WE LIVE IN THAT PUTS THE RIGHTS OF PREDATORY INDIVIDUALS BEFORE THOSE OF DECENT LAW-ABIDING CITIZENS AND IN PARTICULAR, CHILDREN.
What can I do about it? Why should I keep my kids under lock and key - do they not have the right to live a normal and carefree childhood?
I am a mother of a ten-year-old boy and a three-year-old girl and am horrified that these predators are being housed in a community mostly made of young families and old people living alone.
I have always kept a close eye on my children, but my ten-year-boy is of an age where he goes out with his friends, and I no longer have the luxury of knowing where he is 24 hours a day.
The care home in question is situated some 1000 yards away froma playing field and half a mile away from a primary school and nursery - what braindead muppet thought that it would be a good idea to lump these "people" together where temptation is just a short walk away.
We live in the fens, near Wisbech, Cambs and there are many places that a paedophile or rapist could take a victim and they would not be seen or heard.
WHAT SORT OF COUNTRY DO WE LIVE IN THAT PUTS THE RIGHTS OF PREDATORY INDIVIDUALS BEFORE THOSE OF DECENT LAW-ABIDING CITIZENS AND IN PARTICULAR, CHILDREN.
What can I do about it? Why should I keep my kids under lock and key - do they not have the right to live a normal and carefree childhood?
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What can you do about it? Nothing! How do you know these people are who you say they are? How reliable is your source??? Are you thinking of getting together a vigilante posse and going to burn down thier houses???? For goodnes sake, hey could be innocent people!
And why don't you know where your 10 year is on 24 hours a day? I most certainly did when my now 18 year old was only 10!
And why don't you know where your 10 year is on 24 hours a day? I most certainly did when my now 18 year old was only 10!
Whilst no-one likes to think of convicted paedophiles and rapists living close to schools and communities with children, Boo's right - you have no evidence that that's what these people are.
I have worked in various care homes, and believe me, their staff are no less subject to gossip and sensationalism than the rest of us - even management. In fact, if someone who works there has been putting this information about, falsely or otherwise, then they are breaching patient/resident/client confidentiality, which is just as serious an issue.
I have worked in various care homes, and believe me, their staff are no less subject to gossip and sensationalism than the rest of us - even management. In fact, if someone who works there has been putting this information about, falsely or otherwise, then they are breaching patient/resident/client confidentiality, which is just as serious an issue.
My neighbour works at the home involved, and a neighbour further up the road has a partner who works there - These are my sources - is that reliable enough for you??!!
I can assure you that they are not innocent people they are convicted paedophiles and rapists.
As for gathering a posse - don't be so ridiculous - I would not put the lives of other innocent people at risk and would not encourage anyone else to do so either. However, it is important that the community is made aware of the situation and that is what I am angry about - that we have no right to such information. Megans Law in the States was brought into force after a child was snatched, assaulted, raped and murdered - why should we have to wait for this attrocity to happen before something can be done about these people???????? What rights should these people have? - they have stolen the rights and lives of who knows how many innocents who will now be scarred for life.
As for my Son, he has a mobile phone which I make sure is fully charged and credited so I can telephone him and make sure he is ok. When he leaves my house to go out around the village with his friends, they will go to the playing field, they will go to each others houses, and they will go to the shop he is allowed out untill 8pm on school nights and 8.30pm on a weekend and holidays. He is to be in by dark in the Winter months, unless he is round a friend's house. We set boundaries for him and he adheres to them to the best of our knowledge.
As a parent yourself, I am sure you would feel the same if this was evident in your community - would you feel safe letting your child out now? Thing's weren't safe 22 years ago when I was 10 - and they sure as hell have got worse nowadays.
I can assure you that they are not innocent people they are convicted paedophiles and rapists.
As for gathering a posse - don't be so ridiculous - I would not put the lives of other innocent people at risk and would not encourage anyone else to do so either. However, it is important that the community is made aware of the situation and that is what I am angry about - that we have no right to such information. Megans Law in the States was brought into force after a child was snatched, assaulted, raped and murdered - why should we have to wait for this attrocity to happen before something can be done about these people???????? What rights should these people have? - they have stolen the rights and lives of who knows how many innocents who will now be scarred for life.
As for my Son, he has a mobile phone which I make sure is fully charged and credited so I can telephone him and make sure he is ok. When he leaves my house to go out around the village with his friends, they will go to the playing field, they will go to each others houses, and they will go to the shop he is allowed out untill 8pm on school nights and 8.30pm on a weekend and holidays. He is to be in by dark in the Winter months, unless he is round a friend's house. We set boundaries for him and he adheres to them to the best of our knowledge.
As a parent yourself, I am sure you would feel the same if this was evident in your community - would you feel safe letting your child out now? Thing's weren't safe 22 years ago when I was 10 - and they sure as hell have got worse nowadays.
Don't get me wrong, I fully sympathise with how you feel- however I have to agree with SexyJag here, your sources ARE not reliable, and like Jag says these people are breaching patient confidentiality.
And in answer to your question, no I would not feel safe allowing my children out if I didn't know EXACTLY where they were, I didn't when my 18 year old was younger and I won't with my 19month old when she's older.
Were children ever safe though? you only need to think of people like Brady and Hindley to see how safe our children were in the 60's.
And in answer to your question, no I would not feel safe allowing my children out if I didn't know EXACTLY where they were, I didn't when my 18 year old was younger and I won't with my 19month old when she's older.
Were children ever safe though? you only need to think of people like Brady and Hindley to see how safe our children were in the 60's.
SaxyJag - I am aware that confidentiality may have been breached - but the situation remains that the care home is question is a HOME FOR THE SUPPORT AND CARE OF INDIVIDUALS WITH SPECIAL NEEDS - NOT A SECURE UNIT FOR SEX OFFENDERS! The place is not properly equipped to deal with these people - and what about the other residents? They are in genuine need of the services this care home provides - why should they have to live with these people?
Female staff have even been advised not to go to the toilet alone!!!
I for one am grateful that this information is now public knowledge as I can take GREATER care when I have to walk home alone, and more importantly, when my son is out with his friends.
Female staff have even been advised not to go to the toilet alone!!!
I for one am grateful that this information is now public knowledge as I can take GREATER care when I have to walk home alone, and more importantly, when my son is out with his friends.
I'm a parent too and have a boy and a girl not much older than son and I sure as hell wouldn't want a Megans law over here.
You highlight the problem in your answer - what are you going to do about it? move? - what then when somebody else moves into the area - move again?
What happens when a child goes missing - go round there with a pitchfork? Only to find the kid ran away after a family row, or the purpertrator was a lorry driver or salesman from outside the area.
Then 80% of abuse happens in families so the details can't be publicised because it would identify the child.
It's simply a bad idea.
The streets have never been safe, not 20 years ago not in victorian England but things like mobile phones help. Like it or not growing up recognising the world contains threats of this sort is normal
Thing is now it doesn't sound as if you're ever going to relax in the area and so as far as I can see you're going to have to move house - I don't know if you'll end up "safer" or not if you do
You highlight the problem in your answer - what are you going to do about it? move? - what then when somebody else moves into the area - move again?
What happens when a child goes missing - go round there with a pitchfork? Only to find the kid ran away after a family row, or the purpertrator was a lorry driver or salesman from outside the area.
Then 80% of abuse happens in families so the details can't be publicised because it would identify the child.
It's simply a bad idea.
The streets have never been safe, not 20 years ago not in victorian England but things like mobile phones help. Like it or not growing up recognising the world contains threats of this sort is normal
Thing is now it doesn't sound as if you're ever going to relax in the area and so as far as I can see you're going to have to move house - I don't know if you'll end up "safer" or not if you do
Boo and saxyjag - I have just been telephoned by my son's football coach to inform me that they were told about the situation late last week by the Parish Council. All clubs involving children who use the playing field in the vicinity of the home have been officially informed of the status of the care home and it has been left to those who run the clubs to decide whether they wish to continue using the playing field facilities.
The football team has decided to carry on training at the playing field, but have demanded that parents stay whilst training is taking place as they will not take responsibility for the safety of the children. A sensible decision I think.
The football team has decided to carry on training at the playing field, but have demanded that parents stay whilst training is taking place as they will not take responsibility for the safety of the children. A sensible decision I think.
Jake - I agree with all you say. However, I will not be pushed out of my home by these people.
I am not a vindictive person - pitchforks are not my style, but I think we should have a variation of Megans Law. We should know if there are CONVICTED paedophiles and rapists living in our area. Names and addresses are not important as I agree that this can lead to vigilantism.
What I am most concerned about is the fact that there is such a large number of these people living together in a residential care home that is registered as a special needs facility. These people certainly have special needs but not they type that this care home can provide!
I am not a vindictive person - pitchforks are not my style, but I think we should have a variation of Megans Law. We should know if there are CONVICTED paedophiles and rapists living in our area. Names and addresses are not important as I agree that this can lead to vigilantism.
What I am most concerned about is the fact that there is such a large number of these people living together in a residential care home that is registered as a special needs facility. These people certainly have special needs but not they type that this care home can provide!
what do you actually have a problem with? That the home is not a home specificaly built to house and cope with sex offenders? That the home (regardless of wether its fit for purpose) is near your home? That you and other nearby residents have not been told who the residents are?
What if these sex offenders are people with mental disabilities and do require this sort of enviroment?
Offenders are always going to have to be placed somewhere. There will always be vunerable people living in the vacinity of such homes regardless of where in the country they are built.
You are aware of the situation (if its correct) so you must now do what you feel is in the best interest of safety for your family, be it moving or keeping your children indoors or just ensuring that your children are aware of dangers and how to stay safe.
As has already been said, peadophiles and rapists come from all walks of life and can be anywhere, not necessarily in a home for offenders.
It is easy for information to be changed and for innocent people to be accused of such vile crimes too, how would such openess of information reduce that sort of problem.
What if these sex offenders are people with mental disabilities and do require this sort of enviroment?
Offenders are always going to have to be placed somewhere. There will always be vunerable people living in the vacinity of such homes regardless of where in the country they are built.
You are aware of the situation (if its correct) so you must now do what you feel is in the best interest of safety for your family, be it moving or keeping your children indoors or just ensuring that your children are aware of dangers and how to stay safe.
As has already been said, peadophiles and rapists come from all walks of life and can be anywhere, not necessarily in a home for offenders.
It is easy for information to be changed and for innocent people to be accused of such vile crimes too, how would such openess of information reduce that sort of problem.
Redcrx - what I have a problem with is the fact that the home is not fully equipped and designed to deal with these people, the staff are not trained to deal with these people, and the community are not allowed to be informed of their presence.
I know that these people can hail from all societies and classes and can be living among each and every community around the world, but although we teach our children not to talk to strangers and to tell someone if they think they have been approached or touched inappropriately (by people known to them as well as strangers), it is not enough - if it were, there would not be children, women and men suffering at the hands of abuse.
And to all those who have replied to this thread - Even though you all seem to take a passive stance, how many of you were outraged at the plights of Holly and Jessica, and other children who have been abused, raped and murdered??
I know that these people can hail from all societies and classes and can be living among each and every community around the world, but although we teach our children not to talk to strangers and to tell someone if they think they have been approached or touched inappropriately (by people known to them as well as strangers), it is not enough - if it were, there would not be children, women and men suffering at the hands of abuse.
And to all those who have replied to this thread - Even though you all seem to take a passive stance, how many of you were outraged at the plights of Holly and Jessica, and other children who have been abused, raped and murdered??
I think we all feel for cases of abuse and murder whether it is children or OAPS or anyone in between.
But that's not the point this sort of crime's been going on since the beginig of time.
What's important is how you're going to handle your new knowlege.
I wouldn't want to be pushed out either and you can all go and protest to the council but I doubt it'll get you very far.
So it seems to me you have the choice of moving or staying. It sounds to me though as if you're not going to be able to live a normal life there ever again because rightly or wrongly you'll be forever worrying about it.
But that's not the point this sort of crime's been going on since the beginig of time.
What's important is how you're going to handle your new knowlege.
I wouldn't want to be pushed out either and you can all go and protest to the council but I doubt it'll get you very far.
So it seems to me you have the choice of moving or staying. It sounds to me though as if you're not going to be able to live a normal life there ever again because rightly or wrongly you'll be forever worrying about it.
I'm fully on your side ruthiek. You can never be too sure when it comes to your kids.
I'd personally do a bit of searching and find out if your scource is reliable or even ask the local....or even national newspapers to do the research for you. They love stuff like this.
Good luck and keep those kids safe
I'd personally do a bit of searching and find out if your scource is reliable or even ask the local....or even national newspapers to do the research for you. They love stuff like this.
Good luck and keep those kids safe
Near here there is a bail hostel which is opposite the local railway station, across the road from a park containing childens play equipment and just a few yards down the road from a primary school.
When this hostel opened locals were assured nobody would live there that was either charged with or guilty of a serious crime. Shortly after a woman later found guilty of murder was there, again assured this would not happen again,
Recently a man was seen watching the children in the playground of the school, he was found to be a resident of the hostel and was on licence after being released from prison, yes he was a paedophile. and is now due in court again.
The bail hostel states in the local paper that they are now able to house serious criminals but had not told anyone about the changes to their licence, not even the headmistress.
Surely it should be obvious to the probation service that this hostel is totally unsuitable and that the people and the areas there before the hostel came should not be put at risk, I'm sure there are hostels not across the road from a childrens park and very near a school.
When this hostel opened locals were assured nobody would live there that was either charged with or guilty of a serious crime. Shortly after a woman later found guilty of murder was there, again assured this would not happen again,
Recently a man was seen watching the children in the playground of the school, he was found to be a resident of the hostel and was on licence after being released from prison, yes he was a paedophile. and is now due in court again.
The bail hostel states in the local paper that they are now able to house serious criminals but had not told anyone about the changes to their licence, not even the headmistress.
Surely it should be obvious to the probation service that this hostel is totally unsuitable and that the people and the areas there before the hostel came should not be put at risk, I'm sure there are hostels not across the road from a childrens park and very near a school.
Ruthiek. There have been several answers here that are very tolerant of the situation (to say the least). If I were you, I'd leave the area, fast. The protection of my children, when faced with a clear and present danger, such as this, would be my first priority. God help you if children are unable to play football without their parents having to always be there. You are basically being told that your children are at risk here ....so you need to remove them from the situation. If you move somewhere else and the same thing happens, then move again. YOUR CHILDREN ARE NOT SAFE.
Hiya - we have a 'care int he community' hostel next door. I didn't know the history of any of the residents, and decided to to oppose the planning application. We have always got on very well with the staff and residents. When my daughter was pregnant and nearly due, our doorball rang several times, with residents asking how she was, and after the birth we got several presents from them. I was aware (because of my job) that one of the residents had murdered his mother (years ago) and he was the one who was the most gentle and asked for my daughter the most. I knew he was no risk to anyone - so - before anyone gets on their 'high horse' about offenders (of ANY description) just check the facts !!
By the way - I also know a vicar (now in his seventies) who was arrested for a serious assault when he was 17 !!! Would you class him as dangerous?
By the way - I also know a vicar (now in his seventies) who was arrested for a serious assault when he was 17 !!! Would you class him as dangerous?
Thank you to all who share my views on this situation. I fully understand that some are for care in the community and some are against. I personally know someone who has been convicted of sexual crimes against children - I knew him for years. When we found out what he had done, I spoke to him and explained calmly and quietly that we would have nothing more to do with him and he was not welcome in our house any longer. He understood and has not reoffended to our knowledge - I hope he continues his rehabilitation for the rest of his life.
I personally am not for care in the community, I feel that paedophilia in particular is a genetic disorder and that they cannot change. They will always feel the need to get their kicks from children, be it just looking at images or actually committing an assault. Whichever way - it seems wrong to me. Children have the right to their innocence for as long as possible, and not live in fear of the man (or lady) down the street).
I feel that these men and women who commit rape, murder and child abuse waive their rights to live as accepted members of the community as soon as they offend.
I personally am not for care in the community, I feel that paedophilia in particular is a genetic disorder and that they cannot change. They will always feel the need to get their kicks from children, be it just looking at images or actually committing an assault. Whichever way - it seems wrong to me. Children have the right to their innocence for as long as possible, and not live in fear of the man (or lady) down the street).
I feel that these men and women who commit rape, murder and child abuse waive their rights to live as accepted members of the community as soon as they offend.
