Ipp sentance

[haider ali]

I have a friend who has been charged with violent disorder. Can he get ipp sentance for this offence? as far as i am aware you can only get ipp if the maximum is more than 5yrs. Is that true? The crime was also captured on cctv He doesnt have any previous violent offences.

[Postdog]

Just curious, whats an ipp sentence?

[Quoi]

It seems more to do with the sentence having a max of ten years.

http://www.hmprisonservice.gov.uk/adviceandsup port/prison_life/lifesentencedprisoners/

[doglady]

It stands for Indeterminate Public Protection sentence. Used to be called "At her Majesty's pleasure". It basically means you won't be let out until the Home Office say you aren't a danger to the public any more. People such as Ian Huntley and Myra Hindley would be on this type of sentence. I wouldn't think you would get one for violent disorder, unless someone was killed. I could be wrong though.

[abskil12]

You are confusing different aspects of the Dangerous offenders provisions. Violent disorder is a specified offence under the provisions, not a serious specified offence. A specified offence has to carry a max imprisonment of 2 years or more, where the serious specified offence has to carry max 10 years imprisonment or more. Violent disorder carries a max imprisonment of 5 years. An IPP (imprisonment for public protection) concerns serious specified offences, of which violent disorder is not one. Specified offences (like violent disorder) may attract an extended sentence, i.e, a period of custody and extended period on licence if the offender poses a significant risk of harm to the public. The circumstances of the offence and the previous convictions would be taken into consideration.

[haider ali]

Thanks for that you are right in what you said. After a breif meeting with the solicitor he said the same thing as you thank you.

[stargazer43]

sorry to burst your bubble but you can get up to a 10 year sentance on ipp i know because my oh just got sentanced for violent offences the court wanted to give him 12 years but as they can not impose a ipp on over 10 years they gave him 6 before eligability for parole there are laws that are changing all the time on this all i can say to help is get as many charachter refernces as you can from all sorts of people friends workers people who will write and say this is totally out of charachter they are what will resduce his sentance and make all the difference

[stargazer43]

and just to say his offences were all related to the same offence no one was murdered but they believe the level of violence warented a ipp the courts are giving these out like smarties which is why the prison system is in such a mess the reality is that although they are giving out ipp the prisoner has to complete a number of courses whilst in prison before they are eligable for parole hearing but the reality is there are hardly any course placements available and by the time the offender has completed his minimal sentance they have still not completed all the courses necessary for the parole board to consider parole ..so the chances are slim of getting out on first parole hearing ...the thing is they are sentancing not just for the crime they commit but for the crimes they believe the offender may carry out in the future....just makes you wonder when the judicial system started hiring clairevoiants

[AmandaGoodall]

If you know anyone with IPP - please feel welcome to visit my website www.ippprisonerscampaign.com fighting for release dates for IPP prisoners.