Discriminating against someone with a criminal past.

[its_me]

Well like quite a lot of the uk one way or another some have a criminal history. So why when you have made so much good out of your life since been relesed from prison you apply for a decent job to be CRB checked but then they say ooooo noooo sorry cant employ you as of your record? This is an issue for some jobs i get it but the fact some people are more than qualified to to the job more than others and better experience they would rather give the job to a non convicted person than someone with vast amounts of experience.

[its_me]

And this conclusion is drawn by what questions i have asked. Dont judge me as your in no position to do so!

[cazzz1975]

also as a side issue the lack of employment means that most qualified people will get refused for job vacancies, for every one job there are hundreds of applications. whilst its unfortunate that you have not got the job, it may not be all down to your criminal past.

[daffy654]

Milly, a quick Google after a read of its_me's other post will tell you who the mother was.

its_me, offences of dishonesty will automatically bar you from consideration for a paid employment position in many companies.

[bednobs]

perhaps if you are in a volunteer role, it dosen't offer the same opportunities for fiddling and defrauding as a paid role would. Perhaps this is why they won't give you a job, but will accept you voluntarily.
Perhaps you are just rubbish at your volunteer job and they don't wqnt to be saddled with paying you to do crap work? Have you tried asking the employer concerned - surely they are the on;y ones that can tell you why you didn't get the job!

[Philoctetes]

I have been in a position where i was assessing applications for employment where CRB checks had thrown up "difficult" histories. Treating each case on its merits, we were able to OK some with serious crimes (even homicide) and refuse apparently less serious ones. What it came down to was how the applicant presented their case. A murderer whose application showed that they had genuinely benefited from their punishment, and was supported by several relevant case workers was more likely to be approved than one whose approach was "offence was not serious and I've done my time so none of this matters". Offenders will always have to work that bit harder at applications - that is the result of their previous actions - but they can be successful.

[pink-kittens]

it's a dog eat dog world in the job market today and brushing up on spelling and grammar would help
Many employers will also tell you that you are over qualified - it happens

[Nosha123]

surely not a genuine post????

They type of person who commits fraud... not once but THREE times is not a trust worthy person nor one of good standing character nor honest...

I guess that would be why!

They clearly want someone who wont take the Fosters given any tiny opportunity

[Nosha123]

who's to say that an old lady who you might visit.. who happened to have money lying around when you visited to console her about her experience of losing her husband to a terrible crime... that you might not thieve from her

If you are to be trusted visiting people in their homes etc... they will not want to employ a fraudster! Imagine the outcry if you HAD got the job and thieved from one of the victims!!

[NOX]

If you are working with victims of crime, then I can see very well why there are issues with employing people with crimnal convicitons, however as someone whose been to prison on more than one occasion myself I do always try not to let anyone's past colour the way I treat them as I have a very different life to my old one and a fair few people cut me no slack whatsoever on what was a very difficult path to tread at the time. Some people refuse to believe a leopard ever changes it's spots- I've seen plenty who have, but you have to be realistc and understand that a victim of crime would be horrified to be being comforted by one of the people who committed something similar.Some things will be forever out of your reach, just accept it as whining and feeling morose about it will do you no good, and find something you can do. I mentor young offenders amongst other things but I wouldn't try to work for the witness protection service because that'd just be ironic.

[weas]

first perfect person hands up!!!!!!! everyone needs a second bite!!

[Nosha123]

"everyone needs a second bite!!'
or a third.. or fourth???
Fifth?

any advances please???

[its_me]

cheers nosha and weas appreciated so much but then again obviously they aint as broad minded as yourselves. Like the guy says a leapard dont change there spots and love it how all people can do is moan about my spelling and punctuation skills.

[bednobs]

people are commenting on your use of English because your question presumes that you didn't get the job because of your past, but it might well be something like your spelling and grammar that let you down

[its_me]

Maybe but again can one spell 100%, either way i was told about it and was the past and just becuase i work voluntary the job discription was the same apart from i work for expenses that was it. Im not too hung up about this now

[joko]

if you are due in court again soon for the same offence you can hardly be said to be clean can you?

and a good point was raised..maybe they need someone with a certain standard of english?

the paid job will come with a lot more responsibilty than a voluntary role, which i why they must feel you are not right for it

you have no idea who applied an whether you are better qualified than them so that is a pointless stance to take

[pink-kittens]

If you can't take criticism then you really don't want to post on here where people do tell it like it is and will judge you for your past especially when you have made more than one mistake of the same kind!
Surely you should have learnt from your first mistake and maybe employers will also think, 'hey we have a serial offender here' as many have here on your thread.
I was absolutely serious about brushing up on spelling and grammar as that is, in a written application, the very first thing an employer sees from his prospective employee and if you can't do that right, then there really is no hope for you with your criminal history. It may well be, for you, in your past, but for anyone reading this, it is definitely part of who you are and the same thing can be said of anyone who reads your CV.
Take voluntary work somewhere if you can get it (these jobs are also subject to CRB checks), offer your services free somewhere, anything that may prove yourself to those people you need to impress.
And get down off that high horse you seem to have stood upon, it really doesn't suit you

[pink-kittens]

Offense: the action of engaging an opposing team with the objective of scoring

Offence: a violation of the law

Would/should/could HAVE not 'of'

just the basics to get you started

[hc4361]

Maybe he did get a custodial sentence for the attempted fraud offence he was in court for yesterday.
Maybe that is why he didn't get the job - he was due in court.

[its_me]

no actually i am here but then again putting a post on here clearly just makes a lot of people want to sit and interfere and do good when really they should take stock of there own lives.

[pink-kittens]

OK, I'll got first and take a look at my past: No criminal history and a squeaky clean Enhanced CRB check in place where I work

A starter for 10?