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Wheelie Bins
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My local council has started providing wheelie bins for everyone in the borough. Instead of clean, tidy, obstacle free front gardens and pavements we are about to be blighted by the further degradation of our 'society' with neighbours now forced to display their human waste in front of their houses.
I have searched for but cannot find any primary or secondary legislation that gives the council any power to require a householder to move the bins from the pavement once delivered. Legal ownership of the bins remains with the council and any allegation of obstructing the footpath should be directed at the council provided a householder never moves a bin inside their boundary.
A recent case in Liverpool upheld this argument by a householder.
I intend to leaflet my borough advising everyone that they can charge rent to the council for use of their property if they store bins within the curtilage of their hereditament.
Can anyone think of an argument against my proposition that a council will be ultra vires if it attempts to force storage within the boundary of private property? Could there be implied easements/wayleaves for example? many thanks.
I have searched for but cannot find any primary or secondary legislation that gives the council any power to require a householder to move the bins from the pavement once delivered. Legal ownership of the bins remains with the council and any allegation of obstructing the footpath should be directed at the council provided a householder never moves a bin inside their boundary.
A recent case in Liverpool upheld this argument by a householder.
I intend to leaflet my borough advising everyone that they can charge rent to the council for use of their property if they store bins within the curtilage of their hereditament.
Can anyone think of an argument against my proposition that a council will be ultra vires if it attempts to force storage within the boundary of private property? Could there be implied easements/wayleaves for example? many thanks.
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I sympathise with your annoyance, but suspect the authorities usually have the upper hand when deciding not to serve the public as the public wish to be served, but imposing a regime much of the public feel is unacceptable. Best of luck if you are willing to put up with the hassle, but I think most just capitulate in the belief that life is too short to be fighting battles every day.
Let us know if you can get them to return to the days when your reasonable sized bin was collected weekly, and returned to where it was collected.
Let us know if you can get them to return to the days when your reasonable sized bin was collected weekly, and returned to where it was collected.
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I know Helen - what people don't seem to realise is that the council has to keep everyone happy. They have to stick to limits regarding landfill waste now and can be fined if they don't, but folk don't want to recycle or pay more for council tax to pay those fines. They also complain about litter, but refuse to play a part in reducing it. The council are expected to wave a big magic wand, solve all of society's ills, and do it for as little money as possible. If not, you hear folk complaining about getting less for more money - that's life! Curly Wurlys are smaller and dearer than the used to be too you know ;)
Ah yes but why are they gone ? Because one authority imposes restrictions on another which in turn imposes on another, which in turn imposes on the people. All point to the next as justification but the citizen who should be served and has paid to be served has to put up with whatever they get. No longer does he who pays the piper call the tune. You are all just irrelevancies to put up with whatever comes your way.
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We live in a house that has a house on each side and no garden access. I have bought three plastic bins to put the bin bags from the kitchen in and we recycle using the big recycle bin (up to a point) - I suppose I could keep the rubbish in the garage (which has access from the front) but there is too much crap in there. It does look unsightly but better than if I just put the bin bags out for the cats to get at. I just drag it to the kerb and the bin men are really good and usually put the three bins back where they live. No point being awkward about it, just get on with it (it's hardly the end of the world).
My only gripe with wheelie bins is that the council insist on the bin being left on the edge of your property on collection day, ie approx 1 ft away or else it will not be taken.
Fair enough, but when they empty it they leave it halfway across the pavement blocking the driveway when you return home you have to get out of your car and move it.
Ignorant bastads!!!!
Fair enough, but when they empty it they leave it halfway across the pavement blocking the driveway when you return home you have to get out of your car and move it.
Ignorant bastads!!!!
I'm a fan of the wheelie bin now but did feel a bit put upon when they where originally delivered. (having two per houseold and wondering where we'd keep them)
I have a garden and many of you have mentioned back gardens or garages, but I do think they are an eyesore in terraces where people do not have outside space and cannot take them through the house as they used to with their bin bags.
Take a look at this picture as an illustration of the clutter created.
http://www.henleystan...ws/news.php?id=534064
I have a garden and many of you have mentioned back gardens or garages, but I do think they are an eyesore in terraces where people do not have outside space and cannot take them through the house as they used to with their bin bags.
Take a look at this picture as an illustration of the clutter created.
http://www.henleystan...ws/news.php?id=534064