Should she get compensation?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.express.co...-family-to-sue-police

If this person satisfactory sues the Police for her boy friend's death, then the award she may get should be used to pay towards the damage and cost of the riots.

Whether or not he actually fired the gun in is possession is irrelevant, if one carries a gun on the streets then one should expect to get shot.

[Wrongn3mber]

"then the award she may get should be used to pay towards the damage and cost of the riots."

This^ is singlehandedly the most stupid thing I've read on the internet in a long time, why should a widow have to pay for a riot in which she never started nor wanted?

[Zeuhl]

It might be more appropriate for everyone to await the findings of the official enquiry into the shooting incident.

They will be fundamental to anyopinions or related actions.

[Wrongn3mber]

If it turns out the gun belonged to Mark Duggan what can she sue for?

[emmie]

cart before the horse comes to mind AOG. The enquiry hasn't happened yet, lets see what the findings are before making anymore comments on compensation.

[Wrongn3mber]

Zeuhl, aog wants your opinions so why not answer?

"If this person satisfactory sues the Police for her boy friend's death, then the award she may get should be used to pay towards the damage and cost of the riots?"

[Zeuhl]

<< If it turns out the gun belonged to Mark Duggan what can she sue for?>>

Indeed.

Although if, for example, it is found that the gun was not drawn on the officers then there could be a legal argument for unlawful killing as they are only covered for using lethal force if they can show they had reason to fear for their own safety.

[bednobs]

I find it very interesting - last night she was on the news saying they shouldn't have shot hime because he would never have used the gun. "100% sure he would never have used the gun" Interviewer: "did you know he had a gun" g/f: "no"
So she ABSOLUTELY 100% knows he wouldn't have shot a gun - yet she didn't even know he had one

[Wrongn3mber]

And em, should the widow pay for the riot? (How ridiculous)

[bednobs]

also, she said "he had the gun in his hand, so they should have shot him in the hand, not the chest"
What The Funicular???

[Zeuhl]

<<so why not answer?>>

Because it is hypotherical to the extreme, but if you insist ...

If she is able to sue successfully, that would only happen if Duggan was not threatening officers and so was killed unlawfully.

If that were the case then (like you) I can't see any reason why such a person's widow and children should give up their compensation to pay for damage they were not responsible for and have consistently condemned.

[Ric.ror]

If he was then why was he carrying a gun?

[emmie]

wrongnumber i don't understand your comments, but like so many they often seem couched in sarcasm. Did i say anything about giving the women compensation, or indeed that the money should she get it, go to pay for the riots, of course not, thats plainly ludicrous.

[Zeuhl]

<<If he was>> what?

Police rules for use of lethal force do not allow them to kill people for carrying a gun in their pocket.

If a weapon is drawn and pointed in a way that <might> present a danger to officers or members of the public - that's different.

[sir.prize]

Duggen was known to the police. Under observation by the police. Turned up with a gun. Got shot. So what . . .

[Ric.ror]

Well why was he carrying a gun in his pocket
If he was?

[sir.prize]

Ric-.ror - No doubt because Duggan was a druggie and had no respect for anyone.

[Zeuhl]

<<So what . . . >>

Because we have rules for how our police officers can and can't kill her majesty's subjects.

That's one of the details that differentiates us from places like Syria!

The enquiry will hopefully establish the facts

[Wrongn3mber]

Thanks for answering zeuhl, em10 not sarcastic at all but as you were the only posters on this thread I wanted the general opinion so the op could see what a ridiculous notion it was for a grieving widow to pay for the riot.

[Brenden]

She is'nt his widow, she is his girlfriend. More likely whe will sue on behalf of his children.