What are my rights after being a victim of theft?

[maisiemoo1]

Hi all,

Hope someone can help.

I was mugged last year of a brand new iPhone 4s.

There person was court, I then had to wait as he was in prison for the same offence against others (also the weekend after being released from prison he stole someone's iPad 2)

When I first made my complaint in November last year he and his mum were both hounding me by texting and calling me day and night saying if I dropped the charges they'd pay me the money in full.

When he was arrested for my theft he again told the police officer that his dad would pay me the full amount.

Well he went to court last week and I got a letter yesterday saying he has a electronic tag for 28 days. I emailed the person who sent me the letter and she said he's been tagged, no mention of money was talked about and that the case is closed and she can't help me anymore. I did send a second email which she has failed to reply.

Is there anything I can now do to recover the cash? I spoke to victim support and although on all letters sent to me saying they've been informed they had no file on my case.

I am fuming now and want my much needed money back.

TIA

[exdc]

I think maisiemoo realises that Joko but this matter should have been resolved by the police / CPS and or the Courts

[maisiemoo1]

Thank you exdc, I spoke to cps and they said nothing was mentioned, she can't help me further now she is ignoring my calls and emails.

I am not being rude to you joko so there is no need for the way your post comes across.

[exdc]

Hi

Your sure you spoke to the CPS maisie? (Crown Prosection Service).

[exdc]

Joko, read the thread again, Maisie appears to have accepted that the comments from the offenders parents were not legally binding etc and is seeking advice on alternative methods to recover the cost of the stolen phone or iphone from the offender.

Previous page:

A: My guess is this family would plead poverty if they ever got told by a court to pay someone for their stolen iphone or ipad

A :£5 or £10 a week is likely to be on the high side, I think, ***. £1 a month is more likely I think as they will probably plead poverty

OP: Both his parents said they would pay the full amount. Also his Facebook states he works and his profile pic is him holding a big wad of cash..................

[maisiemoo1]

Again thank you exdc at least someone understands what I'm saying.

The letter I got said cps at the top of the page do that's who I emailed.

[exdc]

Okies. joko, no probs.

Maisie, before looking at other forms of redress you need to confirm whether compensation for the stolen phone was an issue raised and heard in court.

This starts at the investigation stage by the police who should complete the relevant forms (form MG19), which informs the Crown Prosecution Service that you seek to make a claim for compo if an offender is convicted (in this case, a theft, which qualifies).

The police forward the case papers to the CPS, 'CROWN' Prosecution Service who primarily prosecute criminal offences hence, Regina V 'defendants name'. If the police forget to submit the MG19 or believe its not an issue for some daft reason the CPS usually enquire with the Officer in charge of the case (OIC) to confirm whether this has been omitted etc. As long as the CPS are informed that it is an issue then the matter will be raised at the court hearings.

New Judge has posted a summary and a web-link that clearly provides evidence that the criminal courts are concerned with compo for victims of crime, despite what othes may think .

I would first contact the police and ask that the OIC contact you and ask him whether he submitted a claim for compensation, (Form MG19), if yes but did not attend court nor given full update of trial by CPS then ask him to contact the CPS and get back to you with the answer. If no joy from the police then contact the CPS yourself. (I would guess that the VS worker is based at the CPS offices hence the heading of her email address etc) , wh

[exdc]

bear with me i keep getting knoecked off-line

[exdc]

Cont..

who I would now bypass and deal directly with the police and the actual CPS Caseworker.

See how you get on then come back if you have any questions.

[boxtops]

Not quite to do with the case, but wasn't the phone insured against theft...?

[maisiemoo1]

No boxtops as stated it was brand new not even a day old. Apple wouldn't help me and my parents homes and contents insurance said they would not do anything.

Sincere Apologies exdc I've just looked at the letter and it was from CJS not CPS.


I don't think the officer is working this weekend so fingers crossed I should hear back from him on Monday

[exdc]

Okies Maisie

Victim Support falls under CJS and unable to answer specifics of the case, so see how you get on with the police and let us know.

ta

[exdc]

Sorry, I should mention that if the CPS or Police have failed to submit the application at court then it may be too late as previously mentioned by NJ or the fact that a tagging sentence might exclude compo etc, (we will cross that bridge if we come to it).

Out of interest, what did the offender tell police / CPS regarding the location of the stolen property and did police make efforts to recover the item?

[joko]

unbelievable.

[boxtops]

what's unbelievable?

[bednobs]

i would guess the fact that Joko's answers have been removed

[maisiemoo1]

Exdc he admitted everything to the police well he had to after stealing it he sent me a text taunting me while I was with the police.

They searched his property but it wasn't there he'd obviously sold it

[exdc]

Hi

Ok, when the police contact you also ask what the offender said he did with the stolen phone and did the police make any enquiries / take any actions to recover it.

If you know the IMEI number of the phone, consider registering it on
http://www.immobilise.com/

Most police forces now use this site as a secondary search for stolen items. If a person is arrested the IMEI number is checked against this site (can also be done when a person is searched in public etc). Once the details are entered on this site and confirmed it will keep blocking the actual phone and alert service providers.

[exdc]

Sorry, i meant everybody who is arrested and has a mobile phone on them then the police will check the IMEI against the data-base and they have quite a good success rate in finding previously stolen phones and the detained person is further arrested for possession / handling stolen goods etc.

Your IMEI number (15 digits) will be on the packing box.