secondment rights

[sj10]

Hi hope you can help. Im currently in a secondment role and have been for the last 4 years. The position was only for 3 months at the beginning but now is a permanent role. I have to use the job title but they wont give me the pay grade. There are 33 people in the role doing the same job but we are all on different pay grades. I sit next to a person that is being paid £5000 more than me a year when we're doing the same job and she is only seconded the same as me. there are others that have the pay grade for the job and are earning alot more. I was just wondering how long they can class you as a secondee and if its fair that everyone is being paid differently for the same job? any help would be appreciated.

[bednobs]

it's not "fair" but pretty usual that people get paid different rates for the same job. Regarding secondment - could you go back to your substantive role id you wanted to?

[factor-fiction]

Is there apay scale- maybe some earn more because they have progressed based on service and/or other criteria such as performance.

I don't think there is any obligation on an employer to pay two people the same wage for doing the same job, although they have to be mindful of equal opportunities legislation/equal value. If you are a woman and everyone else is male they may be unable to justify it.

You need to ask your manage for an explanation and for an increase if appropriate. You could raise a grievance if you are still not happy. or you could think about taking your skills and experience elsewhere.

Hopefully buildersmate is around and can add his expert guidance.

[sj10]

i could go back to my previous role but ive worked hard for 4 years to biuld this job role into something and it would be a shame to leave it. I just want fairness and to be rewarded for my work, but it seems my employer has other ideas. I was hoping there was some law on how long you can be classed as tempory and not get the pay grade.thanks for your answers

[factor-fiction]

Have you asked them whether you can be confirmed as permanent in the role? It may just be an oversight

[sj10]

yeah ive asked and they have said there not giving the pay grades out.it is a very large company that i work for and things can not be dealt with at manager level.ive taken in to account the pay progression but ive worked there longer than the person i sit next to.

[Maydup]

I'm not sure any of the laws quite fit here although I like to think equal pay for equal work should apply. But equal pay only really applies if you can prove that its sex discrimination. so if those of one gender are paid more than the other in the same job.http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Employment/Re
solvingWorkplaceDisputes/DiscriminationAtWork
/DG_10026665


Alternativley there's the equality act or discrimination act but they tend to apply to protect people being traeted differently on the grounds of race, age, gender etc.

The one that is closest I think is the one that protects agency workers and offers them full rights and equal treatment to the others after 12 weeks.
http://www.direct.gov...entagencies/DG_198917

The best thing to do is to make an appointment to see the most relevant person in the organisation eg HR, line manager, and propose a pay rise. Explain the inequality and make them aware of your disatisfaction witht he situation.

If that gets you nowhere then at least you've made a start and can then talk to the union rep or go back to HR and raise it as greivence.