Can Anyone Rememeber The Name Of The Mother Who Was Accused Of

[lilacben]

murdering her baby/child. And went to prison for a couple of years until they found something was wrong with the child and it wasn't the mother. As I have a friend going through the same thing at the moment. Her grand child died suddenly and they say it was due to trauma. Many thanks xx

[sandyRoe]

Sally Clark?

[Barmaid]

Is this the Sally Clark case? Where evidence by the "expert" Roy Meadows was subequently found to be unreliable and her first baby has most likely died of natural causes?

[237SJ]

Or Angela Canning

[Barmaid]

Two more are Donna Anthony and Trupti Patel.

[Peter Pedant]

Yeah I remember it good:
see this: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4114261.stm

This area is a minefield - I think e g there is a permanent injunction in force which forbids anyone saying they thought Sally Clark erm did it. This means discussion is limited.

I can't find any more names besides those above but I recollect that many cases were abandoned. The lawyers just sort of gave up and said we have no evidence to offer and went off to the pub. In one case that I can't now find, the judge says in exasperation But someone killed little baby X
and the lawyers say yeah but we have no idea who it is and troop out.
and it became the norm in child protection cases for the parents to refer the doctor to the GMC

to the extent that doctors stopped doing child protection.

as you can see there are two sides to every coin.

All this now has kinda been sorted out
and so there are v few lessons to be learnt now from these cases.

There are differences with your friend - none of the cases involved the grandparents. Did the child die with the parents there or the grandparents ? Is it a police investigation or a coroner's ? or did the doctor say, there are signs of trauma I have to refer the case to the coroner ? Or did the coroner's pathologist carry out a post mortem and say oh dear there are signs of trauma ?

Early days I think: The function of the grandparents should be to support the parents and the parents of course as ever need a good lawyer.


support the bereaved parents, I think is the most important thing.

PP

[lilacben]

Hello Peter, when my friend first saw the child on the morning she died she was alive..in her cot. But within an hour when she went to wake her she was unconscious and later died. Doctors say there are signs of a trauma. But they dont know how or what caused it.

[lilacben]

Now the mother and grandmother are on bail. as they was the last ones to see her alive. The father was also with her but not sure if he is on bail also.

[Peter Pedant]

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Hmm the usual suspects can answer this better.
If they are on bail then they must have been arrested on a charge.
In which case they will be questioned under caution and need someone also present to represent their interests when they are questioned .

If it has gone this far already then they need legal help priddy quick

In terms of 'do doctors make mistakes over cause of death in the very young ?' The answer to that is yes - however that sort of thing is dealt with by lawyers - kicking off with a second post-mortem.

[lilacben]

peter, yes there was a second post mortem a while ago. They then released her body for the funeral. this has been going on for ten months now. I really do believe my friend has nothing to do with her death. They are due to go to court in a few weeks time and have been told it will go on for three weeks, and then another final court date. This seems to be so surreal. There is another child, a baby of about 15 months old now. he has been in foster care since this happened.

[TheHangman]

Sally Clark was one.

[Peter Pedant]

oh dear
I think alot of this thread has been overtaken by events

Your friends lawyers will be well aware of the miscarriages of justice of ten or twenty years ago.

good luck - a beareavement and the lawyers trampling on everything is the last thing one wants

[lilacben]

Thankyou again Peter. I was just hoping I could find another case like this that would help. Maybe someone in the same situation, just something I can help my friend with. Just hope now that whatever happens in a few weeks in court will go to prove they did nothing wrong. It just makes me so annoyed when you see cases on TV where the child has been ill treated for years and the parents get away with it for so long. Again thankyou for your time. Brenda xx

[jamesbishop911]

How could a mother killed her own child? . I dont believe it, A mother love is unconditional, undying love for her children, no such mother can do such horrible thing to her child unless if she has some mind disorder.

[bookbinder]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sally_Clark

[netibiza]

james... it is happening more and more often, at one time no one believed that a woman could kill a child as they are nurturers, but strange are things happenoing these days.

May justice serve yur friends.