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http:// www.bbc .co.uk/ news/uk -245751 80
//PC Chapman says that on the first occasion, in October 2012, the operator did not believe who she was, saying she had a "male voice".
In her witness statement, the police constable said: "I felt a combination of alarm and distress.
" I replied... 'I am a transsexual'. //
Why not just say "I have a deep voice" I wonder, but then can't get compo for that can you?
I suspect this is more the driver (along with the compo) //she became "frustrated" at the lack of support and understanding about the problems transsexuals faced.//
But what has it got to do with any organization to support and understand providing they are not discriminating in any shape or form ?
//PC Chapman says that on the first occasion, in October 2012, the operator did not believe who she was, saying she had a "male voice".
In her witness statement, the police constable said: "I felt a combination of alarm and distress.
" I replied... 'I am a transsexual'. //
Why not just say "I have a deep voice" I wonder, but then can't get compo for that can you?
I suspect this is more the driver (along with the compo) //she became "frustrated" at the lack of support and understanding about the problems transsexuals faced.//
But what has it got to do with any organization to support and understand providing they are not discriminating in any shape or form ?
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For more on marking an answer as the "Best Answer", please visit our FAQ.""I felt a growing sense of apprehension whenever I had to use the radio, concerned that there may be further, similar incidents," she said.
"The radio is also a lifeline at times and I should not have to feel hesitant or anxious about using it."
the more i read it the more ridiculous it gets...next it will be a claim for stress and unable to work as a result of it etc etc
this person needs to man up (pun intended)
"The radio is also a lifeline at times and I should not have to feel hesitant or anxious about using it."
the more i read it the more ridiculous it gets...next it will be a claim for stress and unable to work as a result of it etc etc
this person needs to man up (pun intended)
We're too late. The compo claim is already in and she didn't think what she was offered was enough, she rejected the settlement. Not sure how that fits in with her not being interested in the money, and not being motivated by money. She could have gone to the press, having accepted the settlement, and said that she was vilely treated etc and that the police should act better.
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I am intrigued by this case.
The lady in question joined the full-time police service after her gender reassignment, and through her previous role, she would be aware - as is anyone with even a passing intrerest in the way the police work - that using a radio is going to be a daily and vital aspect of her duties. From my (limited) knowledge, assignment does not change the pitch of the voice of the reassignee who is going to have to live with a 'male' voice, even if everything else is female.
So the notion that she did not expect to be challeneged at least once about the sound of her voice is a total nonsense - she could, as advised, have simply have said that she had a deep voice.
I work for BT, and years ago, worked with a lovely lady who had a really deep voice, and was constnatly mistaken for a man on the phone, which she always laughed about, and accepted.
This lady worked for the Malicious Calls Section, and was passed a case from a collague going on holiday, involving a man making nightly calls to a lady subscriber, causing her great distress.
The case handler advised the lady by phone that he was handing her case to a collague, and said he would put her on the line to ontroduce herself.
When the lady with 'the voice' said hello, the subscriber became hysterical, screaming that this was the man who was calling her, and they should get the police while he was on the line!
Our colleague dined out on this story for months, taking the potentially embarassing aspect of it and turning it to her advantage as an individual capable of assimilating the vagiaries that life throws our way.
Times have changed - and not for the better it seems!
The lady in question joined the full-time police service after her gender reassignment, and through her previous role, she would be aware - as is anyone with even a passing intrerest in the way the police work - that using a radio is going to be a daily and vital aspect of her duties. From my (limited) knowledge, assignment does not change the pitch of the voice of the reassignee who is going to have to live with a 'male' voice, even if everything else is female.
So the notion that she did not expect to be challeneged at least once about the sound of her voice is a total nonsense - she could, as advised, have simply have said that she had a deep voice.
I work for BT, and years ago, worked with a lovely lady who had a really deep voice, and was constnatly mistaken for a man on the phone, which she always laughed about, and accepted.
This lady worked for the Malicious Calls Section, and was passed a case from a collague going on holiday, involving a man making nightly calls to a lady subscriber, causing her great distress.
The case handler advised the lady by phone that he was handing her case to a collague, and said he would put her on the line to ontroduce herself.
When the lady with 'the voice' said hello, the subscriber became hysterical, screaming that this was the man who was calling her, and they should get the police while he was on the line!
Our colleague dined out on this story for months, taking the potentially embarassing aspect of it and turning it to her advantage as an individual capable of assimilating the vagiaries that life throws our way.
Times have changed - and not for the better it seems!
i was under the impression compensation was only given when the person has some kind of loss or something tangible - not just hurt feelings or embarassment -
you cant perceive a 'feeling', even though nothing major actually happened, and expect to get money for it.
we all get suspicious that people are doing things that they may not be at times - im sure there are not many of us who have not 'reckoned' someone is talking behind our back, or felt someone was looking at us funny etc etc - and its grown into something bigger in our heads - doesn't mean its true.
she also says she told everyone and tried to educate - then felt she'd had to 'out' herself in front of people - they all knew already!
she sounds over sensitive and paranoid on this issue - and to be fair probably with good reason - if people think she is a man on the phone then its probably clear to an observer she used to be a man so has probably had a lot of stick from others.
pretty stupid to try to shame the one place where people had apparently accepted her though - it is clear that they did, or there would have been a lot more tales of terrible incidents in her story - as it is, she just felt embarrassed because she was put on the spot.
you cant perceive a 'feeling', even though nothing major actually happened, and expect to get money for it.
we all get suspicious that people are doing things that they may not be at times - im sure there are not many of us who have not 'reckoned' someone is talking behind our back, or felt someone was looking at us funny etc etc - and its grown into something bigger in our heads - doesn't mean its true.
she also says she told everyone and tried to educate - then felt she'd had to 'out' herself in front of people - they all knew already!
she sounds over sensitive and paranoid on this issue - and to be fair probably with good reason - if people think she is a man on the phone then its probably clear to an observer she used to be a man so has probably had a lot of stick from others.
pretty stupid to try to shame the one place where people had apparently accepted her though - it is clear that they did, or there would have been a lot more tales of terrible incidents in her story - as it is, she just felt embarrassed because she was put on the spot.
good point OL - the police are there to detect and solve crimes - id have though it is police work 101 to correctly identify the person you are speaking to.
it would be remiss of the officer to just accept the word of someone, for fear of offending, if they are being told they are speaking to a woman, yet its coming from a mans voice.
it would be remiss of the officer to just accept the word of someone, for fear of offending, if they are being told they are speaking to a woman, yet its coming from a mans voice.
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