Why Were The Police Involved In This...uk Law

[beezaneez]

3 weeks ago police( CID ) called at my house, wife gave them my phone number they called me, asked me to come see them " it is something to do with threats over facebook. this disturbed me as i never made any threats over facebook , maybe derogatory remarks about a page or something like that . anyway i went to see CID officer was very pleasant , he told me someone wanted my personal details ie address etc as they were launching a civil case against me, i asked police , why ? because of some kind of threats or something of that nature, i said surely if i isssued any threats to anyone it was a criminal case so please arrest , interview and charge me, he told me it was a civil case, i said if so then why police involved , surely a civil case the so called injured party would seek the advice and service of a solicitor, not the police . what is your advice on this and if you give me advise are you a lawyer or do you know the law ? i find it very strange. i will go to solicitor about this in new year as this is playing on my mind.

[TWR]

Persons have been known to lose their jobs through posting / bad mouthing their companies, you're doing the right thing seeing a solicitor.

[Hymie]

I have no legal qualifications and know little concerning the law in this area.

But I would hazard a guess that the person possibly planning to take civil action against you, has friends in the local CID.

You could consider making a complaint against the officer involved – but I would advise against this, in view of what happened to Mr. Mitchel in the ‘Plebgate’ affair.

With regards taking legal advice, unless any formal contact/action has commenced by the other party, there is little to talk about with your solicitor, which otherwsie could cost you money.

[boxtops]

Someone I used to work with nearly lost their job over stupid derogatory remarks they'd made on FB - but that was an employment matter, nothing criminal. Try to seek legal advice tomorrow, don't wait until next week.

[beezaneez]

as i say the CID just told me that injured party wanted the go ahead for police to get my private details , wether this be adddress, ip number , dob etc . im mistified . why did police , especially CID get involved ? if it was civil matter what on gods earth has it got to do with CID ? and why not not just constable blogs if it was a civil matter..... i cannot get my head around this .............confused

[Hymie]

I have already told you why the police became involved, at the request of the other party.

If you want to complain about the CID officer's conduct, then do so - but it won't get you very far.

[FredPuli43]

Did you refuse and ask under what power the police were acting if you refused , under what power in law they demanded the information ?

If we are getting the whole story, police powers are limited. I suspect we are not. Are you sure that the police did not have some suspicion that you had committed an offence ? I'm thinking of the kind of offence of sending tweets or messages which are so offensive that someone could be jailed for it. if they had reasonable suspicion, they should have arrested you for that offence

Police who stop and search you, legitimately, may ask for your name and address but you are not obliged to give those: see Police and Criminal Evidence Act, Code of Practice A section 4.1 and 4.2. That gives you an idea. If they arrest you then you will have to, at some point.

Police who suspect you of committing a crime may demand the correct name and address if they think that you are deliberately giving a false one of either, and will, of course arrest you if you refuse to give any,( if only because that is some evidence to confirm the suspicion they already have).

Interesting though all that is, I don't presently see how any of it applies to you.

[LazyGun]

"this disturbed me as i never made any threats over facebook , maybe derogatory remarks about a page or something like that ."

What might inform this conversation is an indication about what kind of "derogatory remarks about a page" you have, by your own admission, you have been making.

[shoota]

They had your address because they called at your home.

What other details did they require?

[EDDIE51]

How did the Police get your name and address to contact you in the first place?

[FredPuli43]

And it's a fair guess that they had the name as well; they went to what you say is your house and spoke to your wife. What did they say to her? Was it "Is Mr Beezaneez in ?" or not establish your name from her ?

[EDDIE51]

I don't get this , the police go to your house and say they need your name and address? Yet they already know it as they went there to speak to you?
Do you mean they want permission to pass on your details?

[shoota]

Is it the masseuse?
http://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/Law/Question1299885.html

[beezaneez]

the full story is as i explained nothing left out, yes i had a disagreement over a facebook page bnp nick griffin page so what ? things were said but certainly no threats thats all i can think of, i actually told police this. nothing criminal or i would of been arrested wouldnt i ? off course i would. im just curious why a solicitor did not contact me. anyway will be seeking proper legal advise when solicitors opens in new year.

[shoota]

Was the CID man asking for your authority to give your details to the 'complainant'?

[browntrout]

How are Britain's finest (the boys in blue) the villains here. they obviously know who you are and where you live; they knocked on your door. They haven't water-boarded you and you haven't "fallen down the steps in the police station". I would wait until somebody actually tries to do me for something or other, either the cops or the person you DIDN'T libel on FB.

[LazyGun]

The reason people are asking questions is because, on the face of it, it sounds absurd for CID to be involved in "derogatory remarks about a page on facebook".

So your definition of what you consider to be merely "derogatory remarks" might actually be considered threatening, or malicious or incitement to race hatred perhaps by others.

It all just seems very odd.And to me all that stuff about it being a civil or criminal matter and you challenging the police just sounds an irrelevance to the issue itself.