Estoppel Question Advise Needed

[Tiger7861]

Me and my partner live in my parents house for 15 years now they want me out in the past on numerous occasions they have promised me and my partner the house but nothing on paper
The deeds are in there name and we have never paid any rent or mortgage but we have spent money on the property over 10 years about 15k . Do I have any chance of keeping the house or staying here we have 2 children the solicitor had advised me of estoppel saying that you parents have broken there promise?Additional DetailsI forgot to mention me and my husband are separated know he is saying that no promise was made I have a witness to the promise but we did apply for local housing housing register waiting for a house will that have any significance ?
As the landlords are saying one of the conditions of staying there was that you stay on the hosing register.
In other words we did not reply to our detriment can this act bee taken like this ?

[rockyracoon]

Sounds like what it's going to cost will be a small mortgage. You pay them off in installments so you might as well just buy your own house and not have the worry of losing a court case.

[boxtops]

You'll be paying for years and years and years, Tiger, if you take this thing to court and - for goodness sake - think about hiring a QC. This is madness. Take your £13K and do something useful with it, not throw it into lawyers' bank accounts. Rent a stable place where your ADHD son and the rest of the family can be secure. You're going to get nowhere with this. Like others, I'm growing more and more suspicious of this "solicitor comments" you keep talking about. Who is this person, are you sure he/she is legally qualified?

[Tiger7861]

Yes

[boxtops]

It's entirely up to you, then, there's nothing more any of us on here can say - you've had some sound advice from people who know about these things. It seems pure folly to me to pursue the route you want to go down, despite everything that's been said on here. You've already taken legal advice of your own, and you don't want to hear what everyone on here thinks of your chances. if you want to waste a huge sum of money pursuing an alleged verbal promise, you go ahead.

[FredPuli43]

Tiger, there is an old saying at the Bar, concerning litigants. It is "If you throw money down the drain, we don't mind because we are the drain"

Just think what that means.

[EDDIE51]

Very good Fred , the one I always remember is 'The Law like the Ritz Hotel is open to all'
Fred you really should think about writing a book, you have the material.

[Peter Pedant]

Yeah Fred
you could almost say:

a fool and his fees are soon parted....

[Tiger786]

Will make mind up soon

[Tiger786]

Reading a lot of books on this today and judgements especially about
Estoppel
"Lord Scott held to the view that proprietary estoppel can only be used where the assurer believes they have or will have very soon acquired a right in someone’s land." I believed that.

[sherrardk]

Strange, you (Tiger) seem to have changed your name from Tiger7861 to Tiger786.

[Tiger786]

Yes forget my password for the other one

[Tiger786]

In these case I'm reading it says in domestic environment estoppel is easy to establish

[EDDIE51]

Tiger for the last time.
1. You have a very near Zero chance of winning a court case.
2. If (when) you loose you will have to pay all the costs including the other sides costs, this will be at least £50,000 (probably far more)
3. But you are 100% certain to qualify for council/housing association accommodation.
4 As you have no income and dependant children under 16 you will get 100% housing and council tax benefit so the house will be 'free' until the children leave school .
Just take an hour or so to consider what we have told you and make a decision.
You have had good advice form real lawyers ( Barmaid is a real working Barrister, Fred and New Judge are highly qualified legal professionals )

[factor-fiction]

Tiger- your original Tiger7861 account is showing as 'user-inactive' so maybe you opted to deactivate it by accident

[Tiger786]

Yes I did deactive

[Tiger786]

Why 50k

[factor-fiction]

The costs build up pretty quickly when the other side's barristers charge maybe £250 an hour. My guess is it will be less though as it will be decided very early on that the case has no merits

[Tiger786]

But it will got to trial

[Tiger786]

It will be a multi track case the court has no way unless I go or compromise with other body if I stay put it will go to trial

[EDDIE51]

FF a barrister or QC does not just go into court unprepared, they investigate and prepare their case in advance. This investigation has to be paid for QC's charge at least £250 an hour! and want the fee for preparation in advance on a non return basis!.
My daughter was quoted £10,000 advance non refundable fee to prepare a simple child custody case.