Estoppel Question Advise Needed

[Tiger7861]

Me and my partner live in my parents house for 15 years now they want me out in the past on numerous occasions they have promised me and my partner the house but nothing on paper
The deeds are in there name and we have never paid any rent or mortgage but we have spent money on the property over 10 years about 15k . Do I have any chance of keeping the house or staying here we have 2 children the solicitor had advised me of estoppel saying that you parents have broken there promise?Additional DetailsI forgot to mention me and my husband are separated know he is saying that no promise was made I have a witness to the promise but we did apply for local housing housing register waiting for a house will that have any significance ?
As the landlords are saying one of the conditions of staying there was that you stay on the hosing register.
In other words we did not reply to our detriment can this act bee taken like this ?

[Tiger7861]

Further comments fro solicitor
'Again, £15,000.00 spent over 15years consisting purely of a new kitchen and general decorating, I would struggle to see how such expenditure has materially increased the value of the property.

[boxtops]

So the solicitor is agreeing entirely with what we're saying - you've lived rent free for 15 years, the work you've done is routine maintenance, not improving substantially the value of the property. Listen to your solicitor.

[boxtops]

Your later comments put a different perspective on it altogether, you said originally it was YOUR parents' house. Now you've split with their son, it's not surprising they want you to leave, that relationship has finished.

[Tiger7861]

He's not my personal solicitor but one solicitor I emailed with the details of the case she is expert on this sought of stuff she says if what you have done has increased the value then may be but you will have to prove they asked you to do this? Because they could say you done it of your own accord.
She also said your witnesses is your own friend the could will not take that seriously.

[Tiger7861]

Yes you are right it's not my parents house

[woofgang]

PP that's a dead link.

I found this one which says
"1. someone is given a clear assurance that they will acquire a right over property,
2. they reasonably rely on the assurance, and,
3. they act substantially to their detriment on the strength of the assurance

which was my understanding

I honestly can't see how the OP has acted "substantially to her detriment"

[New Judge]

No, nor I woofgang. If anything th eopposite applies and Tiger has obtained a considerable advantage by the arrangement, having lived rent free for 15 years.

[boxtops]

... and now that she's divorced/separated (unclear) from the landlords' son, she wants to keep a roof over her head - but surely any verbal promise was given to the couple, not the individuals, so I don't see why Tiger feels she has a right to stay there (or am I missing something?).

[Tiger7861]

Simply I stand no way ?

[Tiger7861]

Yes at the time we where married when this promise was made we r know divorced

[boxtops]

Your post at 17.13 seems to answer the question, Tiger - you've asked a solicitor informally who is expert at this sort of case, she's given you her advice. I don't understand, therefore, why you think we will tell you something different?

[carrot99]

how old are the children? as the landlord is their grandad is there any chance of him allowing you to stay there until they reach school leaving age? would he allow you to stay there if you offered to pay rent? is your ex husband giving you money to support the children or pay rent?

[Tiger7861]

Children r both under 16 they want me out I don't want to pay rent I want my name on deeds or live there free

[Tiger7861]

Yes I'm getting child maintenance

[boxtops]

But if your ex in-laws aren't willing to sell the house to you (and they don't want to seem to give it to you, now you are no longer connected to your son) isn't that rather an unrealistic ambition?

[Tiger7861]

I just want my gift that was given to me

[woofgang]

not gonna happen.

[Tiger7861]

Why is it not

[browntrout]

But it wasn't given to you was it. It "may" have been promised to their son, or even to you both as a couple. but it sure wasn't promised to you alone. I don't think you've got a leg to stand on.

[Eve]

I also wondered with the money aspect, when you said about £15k was spent, as you were living as part of a couple, was that money spent by both you and your former husband or you alone as to value you are alleging you added?