Can Anybody Give Me Any Details Whatsoever Of Police Operation Nile

[stitchedupbyplod]

This operation was, as far as I know, running from January 2012 onwards. It was specifically designed to entice people behaving in a perfectly lawful manner into committing a sex offence purely to gain convictions. Not a sting but an entrapment.

Anything relating to this operation such as details of duration, legislative objectives, authorisations tasking etc. In fact ANYTHING including observations will be welcome.

Thank you.

[hc4361]

Operation Nile was undertaken by GMP and targetted a large drug gang, resulting in a life sentence for one member.

Is that what you are referring to?

[Peter Pedant]

It is almost a google-whack
one answer:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/manchester/have_your_say/2003/01/06/gangs.shtml

but it IS some years ago - like ten.

The difficulty about googling 'Nile' is that a load of confounders come up.
Including the manchester mummy project ( well mummies come from the Nile dont they ) and the interesting West Nile virus

[woofgang]

http://www.thelawforum.co.uk/police-operation-nile is this you as well?

and maybe this?
https://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20140526091859AAwQUax

going by your name you would appear to have an agenda?

[Old_Geezer]

No, he's just a fan of Noddy :-)

[Peter Pedant]

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In Manc, there were rumours this was occurring in Travis St.
But that doesnt give you an excuse to run the lights under the bridge

and very many years ago, outside BUPA hospital (!!) Whalley Range.

Yeah yeah so OK I know where the cheapest girls of the night are in Manchester

[stitchedupbyplod]

Thank you all for you your swift answers. I was aware of the GMP operation, and the details I am seeking do not relate to that.

Woofgang, Too *** right, I most certainly DO have an agenda!!. Watch this space. Correct about Law Forum & Yahoo. No joy from either.

Sorry old geezer, I just don't understand the 'noddy' bit, wanna explain?

[Daffy6543]

If you were kerb crawling then you were not behaving in a lawful manner.

[jackthehat]

Are you sure it was Operation Nile?
That was drug gangs and over a decade ago.

How can you be trapped into committing a sex-offence?

[Daffy6543]

I was thinking either undercover police officers posing as prostitutes, or an adult pretending to be a child online to trap paedophile groomers.

[bednobs]

you say you don't mind observations.
can you give any more details into what kind of sex offence you were enticed into committing?

[hc4361]

Let's not jump to conclusions - this is the law section, after all.

[stitchedupbyplod]

No Daffy, I was not kerb crawling and nor was it a cop posing as a child or a prostitute. I was not grooming anybody. BTW, is your picture a good likeness? (lol)

Jack please see my earlier comments. This is nothing to do with the Manchester op. I am aware of that one.

[Daffy6543]

It's a perfect likeness thanks.
I really can't think of any other way that the police could entice someone to commit a sex offence.
I have used several different search engines and have gone through several pages and can only find the GMP case and one other that involved the Spanish Police and the FBI.

[jackthehat]

Different operations are given different names......are you sure you mean Nile?

You may find that if you advance a little more information some of the experienced legal bods on here will be better able to help you.

[woofgang]

Well the only scenario that i can think of that would entice someone into a sex offence who was behaving legally, would be an adult who pretended to be underage who was saying to the punter that they they actually were of a legal age in order to trap someone into having underage sex.

Confused? I might be.......

[Peter Pedant]

No woof like Noddie you have led too innocent a life

In Whalley range the girls were draping themselves over car bonnets at a junction ( you cant very well drive over them ) and the police jumped out of the bushes...

Mideighties - some important people were cautioned
and we youngsters innocently killed ourselves with mirth

and do you know ? I still drive past the Spire and think to myself " well thirty y ago, it was so so different !"

[woofgang]

Eve then PP, the drivers must have been driving slowly enough.....and is it a sex offence to have someone draped over your car bonnet without your consent?

[Peter Pedant]

.I dont know: I was never cautioned

I THINK the idea was the police was surprised to find a car with girl sort of well you know... being propositioned by the guilty rich fella

[stitchedupbyplod]

I am astonished by the number of responses my request has generated.

I appreciate that it it is difficult to figure out what actually happened without being in possession of even some of the facts, and I regret that owing to anticipated legal action, I cannot at this stage divulge any further information.

I can say that the whole situation is very complicated and I have written some 20,000 words in preparation for this legal action.

What I am really looking for is info. specifically relating to operation NILE (which is the correct name).

Thank you all but I have more than enough info. on the legal side of things but try as I might I can find virtually nothing on Op. NILE itself which appears to have been set up to entrap people on a semi industrial scale, and as far as I know ran for at least 6 months and probably longer.

In view of this I cannot understand why nobody appears to have any firm information on this operation.

I was hoping that a solicitor who has defended a client caught by this op. or perhaps one of the few honest coppers out there (there MUST be some) who would have heard of it.

All I can say is that when my legal action does eventually comes to fruition and hits the media, It will make Plebgate look like a vicars tea party.

Police posing as underage kids or hookers is fine by me, I have no real problem with this.

It is however, as far as I am concerned, completely wrong for plod to CREATE a crime purely to gain a conviction on what appears to be the fact that a particular selected individual MIGHT commit a crime at some point in the future.

If a crime has been committed, unprompted by plod, by all means nick the culprit. But if that individual is not in any way on the police radar for doing anything untoward.....leave them alone until they do actually offend!

In this country we do not entrap indict, prosecute and gaol an individual until that individual actually offends without direct police enticement. Unfortunately we do!

Anybody out there agree?. Can anybody come up with a reason to justify this sort of action by the police IRRESPECTIVE the offence created?.

And more to the point, ANY INFO ON OPERATION NILE...PLEEEZE.

Thank you for reading this. Stitchedup

[bednobs]

without the facts, as you say it's difficult to comment. However, a crime HAS been committed, and the person who feels they were induced to do it, could have just said "no, i'm not doing that, it's illegal"