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dieseldick | 14:07 Thu 09th Jul 2015 | Law
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i got fine through post, seems that i was in a congestion lane in london city centre 3 weeks ago. photo shows my car only halfway in lane not fully inside lane or driving fully for say more than 1 minute in congestion lane therefore i am appealing this fine.

though if i lose appeal and do not pay fine do bailiffs come to my house and remove goods ? i live in belfast NI ( outside juristiction )

since my car is not registered in england and i do not live there then this fine will have no affect on me.

right or wrong.
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TfL could initially seek a court judgement against you and then a "Certificate of money provisions contained in a judgement". They would then send that to the Royal Courts of Justice in Belfast and instruct the Enforcement of Judgements Office there to seek payment from you.

If a single wheel of your car goes over the white line of a restricted lane in London, however momentarily, you're liable to pay the relevant charge for doing so. Your appeal will fail. Pay up now or it will cost you far more in the long run!
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ben
i think you are incorrect, uk bailiffs have no juristiction over us here in NI. they cannot come to my home to remove car or goods for payment and the fine stays with bailiffs in uk for a period of 12 months and after that they cannot take any action.

i have just read up on it.
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and if they think im going to hand over £65 for one of my wheels going into the lane they have a fight on their hands !!!
Wrong DD, you live in the UK and the authorities will have no difficulty in tracing you.

You encroached the lane, they have the evidence, you have no basis to appeal.

If you are still in London beware of entering hatched areas too, they are under camera surveillance and fines are frequently issued if you enter when the exit is not clear and you consequently cause an obstruction.
DD"I have just read up on it"

Where is your source that you have consulted DD ?
DD for months now you have been posting that you are looking for 'digs' Hotels, B&Bs, caravans all in England. You live and work in England.
Do not bother with a appeal you will lose and the fine will be higher.
''I got fine though post'' did it come to your English address? As I just said you have been posting on here for months about your living in England and the search for cheap accommodation.
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i travel to london and other areas in uk to work .

There are no bailiffs in NI; they stopped using them after PIRA and other assorted **** decided that they were 'legitimate targets'.

Instead, there is the Enforcement of Judgments Office (EJO). This is a far better (and modern) system, and is operated by the Courts Service. EJOs do not act like Bailiffs; instead, they will aim to negotiate payment at an affordable rate.

However, before EJOs can be involved, the creditor would first need to issue a court claim, and obtain judgment, and then you would have to fail to pay in accordance with that judgment. In short, the DCAicon is full of pish and wind.

Threatening action wihich cannot legally be taken is contrary to CPUTR 2008, and threatening action in the wrong jurisdiction is a breach of OFT Guidance.

You can safely ignore any threats of bailiffs made by a DCA. It's also worth noting that court claims for debt are less common in NI because the court system is far stricter - there's no equivalent to the Northampton Bulk Centre, and a claimant has to produce all the paperwork with their claim.
If you were halfway in the congestion lane then it's likely that more than one wheel was in there unless you drive a Reliant Robin. But I think the photo is sufficient evidence- I'm sure they don't need to show you drove in there for a certain distance of time period
>>>uk bailiffs have no juristiction over us here in NI

Agreed but it wouldn't be GB bailiffs involved. Once the Royal Courts of Justice in Belfast are in receipt of a 'certificate of money provisions contained in a judgement', issued by an English County Court, the person (or body) that obtained that judgement can then ask to Northern Irish court to issue a further judgement against you. So you wouldn't be hounded by GB authorities but by NI ones.

Court judgements from any EU member state can similarly be pursued in any other EU state.
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Royal Courts of Justice in Belfast are in receipt of a 'certificate of money provisions contained in a judgement', issued by an English County Court, the person (or body) that obtained that judgement can then ask to Northern Irish court to issue a further judgement against you. So you wouldn't be hounded by GB authorities but by NI ones.

over a £65 fine ? no, i still think your wrong. parking fines if you read up on them cannot be used against you in ccjs or credit blacklists etc especially uk fines or affairs in NI.
If you are so adamant you have the answer why did you ask the question?
Precisely why I gave up researching the matter Eccles,as Diesel has read up on it and knows everyone is wrong.

Armed with that evidence then he has no problem.
agree BC not surprisingly - I cant recollect when he was last wrong
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http://www.courtsni.gov.uk/en-GB/Services/EJO/HelpAdvice/Documents/d610668526bf4c418157d41a2245241ep_EJO_Enforcing_Judgment_Outside_NI.pdf

o and that is the judgement is outside NI - the script makes this very clear
BC and PP
There is no disputing of the details you have given but it would seem that DD is trying to convince himself that ONLY he is right - he has no chance of avoiding the penalty.

DD appears to know best, don't know why he bothered with the OP really!
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done my research after i posted this ....now i have my answers . got my answers off google ( not off AB you as you clearly dont know ) .

going to use google more often i think. getting bored now of AB
Your conclusion of boredom with the site is noted,and I am sure that there are others here ,along with me ,who are bored with you.

Anyway our gain is googles loss.

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