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I Don’T Want To Hijack Mikey's Earlier Thread
but as the countryside and green belt have been mentioned, I thought I would start a new one as it is a subject that concerns me greatly.
We are constantly being told of the need to build more houses, but where does it stop?
Villages are now becoming towns and suburbs are now ‘joining up’ with cities.
Many of us choose to live in the countryside, and look out of our windows at fields, but will we end up looking at housing developments in the future?
One of the villages I drive through has houses on one side of the road, and fields on the other, but those fields are now being turned into a housing development.
My previous house was chosen because it backed on to a country lane with fields beyond. I believe these fields are also earmarked for development.
Other villages and market towns that I pass through have placards up with things like “say no to more houses in our village”.
So what are the reasons that we need more houses? I do of course, have my own opinions, but will wait and see what others say.
We are constantly being told of the need to build more houses, but where does it stop?
Villages are now becoming towns and suburbs are now ‘joining up’ with cities.
Many of us choose to live in the countryside, and look out of our windows at fields, but will we end up looking at housing developments in the future?
One of the villages I drive through has houses on one side of the road, and fields on the other, but those fields are now being turned into a housing development.
My previous house was chosen because it backed on to a country lane with fields beyond. I believe these fields are also earmarked for development.
Other villages and market towns that I pass through have placards up with things like “say no to more houses in our village”.
So what are the reasons that we need more houses? I do of course, have my own opinions, but will wait and see what others say.
Answers
We don't have a housing shortage. What we have is a people surplus. If we don't do something about that we will end up building on every square foot of land.
18:15 Tue 10th Nov 2015
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maybe the shortage of space is exaggerated
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We need more housing because our population is increasing (I'll leave the inflammatory comments to others...) and because there has been a consistent failure for new housing development to keep up with demand.
Local Authorities need to look at allowing town centre properties to be developed/converted as residential dwellings.
Brownfield sites should be considered for 'affordable' residential development rather than for white-collar starter homes.
Local Authorities need to look at allowing town centre properties to be developed/converted as residential dwellings.
Brownfield sites should be considered for 'affordable' residential development rather than for white-collar starter homes.
We certainly don't use all the empty properties and brown lands in towns - this ought to be actively encouraged (funded - rate breaks etc) and one solution for lower cost housing and to regenerate city centres. Well done , Liverpool and Manchester for what you are doing, places like Truro suck.
We are a city of 26000 people, some 1500 new homes are being built - that implies around 5 to 6000 new people, say 2,500 adults. I have one question - where are the jobs - the ones we have are service or retail or tourism.....or are we going to drain the city centre further?
We are a city of 26000 people, some 1500 new homes are being built - that implies around 5 to 6000 new people, say 2,500 adults. I have one question - where are the jobs - the ones we have are service or retail or tourism.....or are we going to drain the city centre further?
DTC........I would imagine that some of those extra people will be retirees from wealthier parts of Britain. People have been retiring to the South West for many years...probably started when the railways first got down there, in the 1870's if my memory serves me right. But there has yet to a trend for stockbrokers from Surrey retiring to Merthyr Tydfil !
There are some on here that will blame immigration for all of Britain's ills. Of course some of the pressure on housing is down to an increased level of immigration but the whole picture is much more complicated. Every time there is a divorce, another home is required.
We certainly need more home's but not more expensive "executive" housing...we need more affordable homes for rent, and that means new Council Housing. Council Housing that can't be sold off in a few years but kept as a intrinsic part of our housing stock. We managed to build 100,000's of new homes in the immediate post-war period ( Homes for returning Heroes, as I recall ) And we can do this again, if only there was the political will to do so.
I have said before that green belt isn't sacrosanct. Anyway "green belt"is defined differently in different parts of the country. Brown field sites are also important. Only this morning the Government made a case for knocking down old-fashioned and cramped prisons and using the freed-up land for building.
But I will take a bet that this new building land isn't used for affordable, rented housing !
There are some on here that will blame immigration for all of Britain's ills. Of course some of the pressure on housing is down to an increased level of immigration but the whole picture is much more complicated. Every time there is a divorce, another home is required.
We certainly need more home's but not more expensive "executive" housing...we need more affordable homes for rent, and that means new Council Housing. Council Housing that can't be sold off in a few years but kept as a intrinsic part of our housing stock. We managed to build 100,000's of new homes in the immediate post-war period ( Homes for returning Heroes, as I recall ) And we can do this again, if only there was the political will to do so.
I have said before that green belt isn't sacrosanct. Anyway "green belt"is defined differently in different parts of the country. Brown field sites are also important. Only this morning the Government made a case for knocking down old-fashioned and cramped prisons and using the freed-up land for building.
But I will take a bet that this new building land isn't used for affordable, rented housing !
the houses concerned aren't exactly retirees, tony. If you know Truro, the biggest site is on the corner of the A39 and Newquay road and down the hill, the Food Hall for Cornwall and Waitrose. No 2 out at Threemilestone and next to the stadiums and new supermarket looking back over towards the A30, thirdly, a small site on the corner of the circular and the Falmouth road junction, fourthly low cost housing in Shortlanesend.
JtH plus Mikey's 3rd paragraph combine together to nail the key points required IMHO.
When demand exceeds supply the inevitable consequence is that prices go up and this has made it impossible for many to afford to buy first-time or rent. There are still lots of brownfield sites outside the central inner core (which is generally retail/business commercial) in many of our towns and cities. Historically these housed major employing industries that are/have declined. There are still a great number of these that can be used (as conversions) or redeveloped (from being flattened).
But central Government do seem to struggle (both Parties, over last 18 years) to pull the right levers to get local authorities and house builders to increase the rate at which houses are built.
But the proposed selling Housing Association properties should not happen.
I wish there was a magic bullet.
When demand exceeds supply the inevitable consequence is that prices go up and this has made it impossible for many to afford to buy first-time or rent. There are still lots of brownfield sites outside the central inner core (which is generally retail/business commercial) in many of our towns and cities. Historically these housed major employing industries that are/have declined. There are still a great number of these that can be used (as conversions) or redeveloped (from being flattened).
But central Government do seem to struggle (both Parties, over last 18 years) to pull the right levers to get local authorities and house builders to increase the rate at which houses are built.
But the proposed selling Housing Association properties should not happen.
I wish there was a magic bullet.
Where does it stop ? Well when we are all well past this point if some posters are taken seriously. http://
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