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How To Appeal A Doctor's Opinion
Hi,
Last year I was arrested and evaluated by doctors and nurses at custody. Evaluation was no acute mental health symptoms, orientated, coherent etc... and this was consistent across two doctors and two nurses that came to visit in the end.
However, the very first doctor although she evaluated me and the bottom line was that I had no issues, she did write down "appears" to be very paranoid. Which i do not agree with. This evaluation was 20 minutes after I was booked into custody for crimes I did not commit and managed to apply and get them deleted off of the PNC. I was in shock at what I was being accused with and I don't agree with the evaluation 20 minutes after they booked me in. Throughout my time in custody there were no issues, and in the end I not only was found not guilty but then was able to get the records deleted by a chief police officer.
What options would be available to me with regards to appealing the notes that the very first doctor wrote down? Which is ("appears" to be very paranoid)... No symptoms listed other than "appears"...
Thanks in advance!
Last year I was arrested and evaluated by doctors and nurses at custody. Evaluation was no acute mental health symptoms, orientated, coherent etc... and this was consistent across two doctors and two nurses that came to visit in the end.
However, the very first doctor although she evaluated me and the bottom line was that I had no issues, she did write down "appears" to be very paranoid. Which i do not agree with. This evaluation was 20 minutes after I was booked into custody for crimes I did not commit and managed to apply and get them deleted off of the PNC. I was in shock at what I was being accused with and I don't agree with the evaluation 20 minutes after they booked me in. Throughout my time in custody there were no issues, and in the end I not only was found not guilty but then was able to get the records deleted by a chief police officer.
What options would be available to me with regards to appealing the notes that the very first doctor wrote down? Which is ("appears" to be very paranoid)... No symptoms listed other than "appears"...
Thanks in advance!
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The chance is virtually nil - doctors'notes are NOT meant to be infallible and dont have any hallowed status in law
Now - EVEN if the doctor has written down - "has six fingers" - and then you conclusively you only have ever had five - the correct course is to write later - "I have counted and recounted his fingers and there are only five" - ( sign and date)
possibly above 'six' - squeeze in 'five - see later note 19 Au 19) but I have to say I am not keen on decoration like this altho it may be wise in certain cases
in child protection - arm looks broken is an important statement and even if it is not should be be 'corrected' but a later entry saying arm OK
was appears really in inverted commas?
I think - pt 'appears' very paranoid
is different to
pt appears very paranoid
and You must later have had a normal psychiatric examination later on which is documented.
So you never get a great big black pen and cross out the bits you dont like - - that is not how the system works and is meant to work
so this is a very long entry for
thee doctor will say
but he appeared so at the time in my opinion
Hospital notes: you never ever see:
foreign travel - Dx Hep A hep B, malaria, TB, schisto
and then red lines thro them /yes, /yes /no /poss / stupid.......
Now - EVEN if the doctor has written down - "has six fingers" - and then you conclusively you only have ever had five - the correct course is to write later - "I have counted and recounted his fingers and there are only five" - ( sign and date)
possibly above 'six' - squeeze in 'five - see later note 19 Au 19) but I have to say I am not keen on decoration like this altho it may be wise in certain cases
in child protection - arm looks broken is an important statement and even if it is not should be be 'corrected' but a later entry saying arm OK
was appears really in inverted commas?
I think - pt 'appears' very paranoid
is different to
pt appears very paranoid
and You must later have had a normal psychiatric examination later on which is documented.
So you never get a great big black pen and cross out the bits you dont like - - that is not how the system works and is meant to work
so this is a very long entry for
thee doctor will say
but he appeared so at the time in my opinion
Hospital notes: you never ever see:
foreign travel - Dx Hep A hep B, malaria, TB, schisto
and then red lines thro them /yes, /yes /no /poss / stupid.......
@douglas9401
Because in my line of work the investigations aren't DBS checks they are thorough government checks. It is a factual statement that medical records matter and have a severe impact to my career. I've asked for advice, not to be judged on assumptions of why things do not matter... They severely matter, unless you are saying careers don't matter either?
Because in my line of work the investigations aren't DBS checks they are thorough government checks. It is a factual statement that medical records matter and have a severe impact to my career. I've asked for advice, not to be judged on assumptions of why things do not matter... They severely matter, unless you are saying careers don't matter either?
@TonyV
Misunderstanding and false allegations, proven in the end and the case is over.
@Peter Pedant
You actually provided a really negative answer when I asked a question a long time ago as to whether it was possible to get a certain PNC record deleted or if a certain thing (avoiding saying to remain anonymous) was attainable. The record was deleted and the "thing" was attainable, although you were certain that none of those things were possible.
Misunderstanding and false allegations, proven in the end and the case is over.
@Peter Pedant
You actually provided a really negative answer when I asked a question a long time ago as to whether it was possible to get a certain PNC record deleted or if a certain thing (avoiding saying to remain anonymous) was attainable. The record was deleted and the "thing" was attainable, although you were certain that none of those things were possible.
@TonyV
Charges were brought, they lasted 20 minutes or so in court before the prosecution wanted to drop them, multiple lawyers said it was not a crime, and a chief officer (through ACRO) deleted the PNC records... It was genuinely shocking given the circumstances, and the maximum penalty was life for something that is confirmed to not even be a crime.
It is difficult to explain whilst trying to remain anonymous, but public sector careers sometimes don't just do DBS checks, they check every single aspect of your life and that includes thorough medical record checks. My concern is the statement "appears very paranoid" 20 minutes after being booked into custody whilst in shock of what was going on, is enough to say that paranoia represents a very serious underlying mental health condition. In my line of work a diagnosis is not necessary and suspicion is enough, the normal laws in regards to discrimination do not apply, similar to military standards but more strict in most cases (apologies for being vague, it is deliberate, but hopefully that explains the situation)
I have all my records at hand, I have everything they've written about me and case files and deletion letters.
I initially saw a doctor who said no acute Mental Health (MH) issues, and coherent, but said, however, appears very paranoid (this was 20 mins after being booked in).
A day later at the station, I was seen by another doctor, who said no acute MH issues, coherent and aware, polite and able to make decisions, no concerns.
A day later, I was seen by two MH nurses, both said good things about me and had no concerns at all.
I was observed at the cell door at the station for over a day, had a normal chat with every single officer who swapped over to observe me at the door, none had concerns, some wrote things in my favour. I have also got all custody records at hand (I have made quite a few subject access requests)
Charges were brought, they lasted 20 minutes or so in court before the prosecution wanted to drop them, multiple lawyers said it was not a crime, and a chief officer (through ACRO) deleted the PNC records... It was genuinely shocking given the circumstances, and the maximum penalty was life for something that is confirmed to not even be a crime.
It is difficult to explain whilst trying to remain anonymous, but public sector careers sometimes don't just do DBS checks, they check every single aspect of your life and that includes thorough medical record checks. My concern is the statement "appears very paranoid" 20 minutes after being booked into custody whilst in shock of what was going on, is enough to say that paranoia represents a very serious underlying mental health condition. In my line of work a diagnosis is not necessary and suspicion is enough, the normal laws in regards to discrimination do not apply, similar to military standards but more strict in most cases (apologies for being vague, it is deliberate, but hopefully that explains the situation)
I have all my records at hand, I have everything they've written about me and case files and deletion letters.
I initially saw a doctor who said no acute Mental Health (MH) issues, and coherent, but said, however, appears very paranoid (this was 20 mins after being booked in).
A day later at the station, I was seen by another doctor, who said no acute MH issues, coherent and aware, polite and able to make decisions, no concerns.
A day later, I was seen by two MH nurses, both said good things about me and had no concerns at all.
I was observed at the cell door at the station for over a day, had a normal chat with every single officer who swapped over to observe me at the door, none had concerns, some wrote things in my favour. I have also got all custody records at hand (I have made quite a few subject access requests)
