Furlough Question

[rockyracoon]

Not sure where this question should go, so sorry if it's in the wrong section.

A friend of mine has 2 jobs, (different employers), and has been furloughed from one of them. Will he be eligible for the 80% from the government whilst still working the other job? We're struggling to find any info on Google. Will he get 80% of both jobs added together, or maybe the difference between one one job and £2500. I'm not sure if either of the employers know there is a second job
Thanks

[fiction-factory]

80% of the furloughed job. Plus normal pay on the other job.
He certainly would not get furlough pay of 80% of them both added together since he'll still be being paid for the non-furloughed job.

[THECORBYLOON]

"If your employee has more than one job

If your employee has more than one employer they can be furloughed for each job. Each job is separate, and the cap applies to each employer individually.

Employees can be furloughed in one job and receive a furloughed payment but continue working for another employer and receive their normal wages."

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/claim-for-wage-costs-through-the-coronavirus-job-retention-scheme

[fiction-factory]

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/check-if-you-could-be-covered-by-the-coronavirus-job-retention-scheme
All covered here- see the Check if You're Eligible section

[THECORBYLOON]

The same situation applies if an employee with two employers is sick. They can get Statutory Sick Pay (SSP) from both or just one of them and continue working for the other employer.

[rockyracoon]

Thanks all. So if he was furloughed from both jobs, he could get 2 lots of £2500? That doesn't seem fair, does it?

I'll let him know.

[rockyracoon]

I mean up to two lots of £2500. I know it's 80% of wage.

[pixie374]

He would get 80% pay from each, of what he usually earns. It seems fair to me.

[fiction-factory]

Is it of course extremely likely anyone would earn such a salary for each part time job

[fiction-factory]

^Unlikely not likely!

[THECORBYLOON]

As long as someone has jobs with different employers, as opposed to two jobs with the same employer, the scheme applies to both jobs.

[rockyracoon]

Unlikely yes, but if you worked in finance in the city, not unachievable.

Anyhoo, thanks for all your help.

[Ellipsis]

> He would get 80% pay from each, of what he usually earns. It seems fair to me.

The "unfairness" would come from comparing a worker on £60K from one employer, who would receive £2500 furlough money, to a worker on £30K from each of two companies, who would receive £5000 furlough money.

[pixie374]

Oh, I see... sorry.

[THECORBYLOON]

The scheme won't make folk better off than they would be if working still so I don't see any issues with it.

[pixie374]

Is that the same with self-employed? We have been given a figure already, but are planning to go back to work asap (keyworkers). Does anyone know?

[fiction-factory]

>The scheme won't make folk better off than they would be if working still so I don't see any issues with it.
Unless someone is furloughed from one job and immediately gets another job for which he/she is paid.

[jno]

I imagine once he's proved willing to do two jobs, he deserves compensation for both of them if the government prevents him from doing them. If he's been working twice as hard as normal mortals, why not?

[THECORBYLOON]

Yes, there is that possibility.

[THECORBYLOON]

JNO, if the jobs are part-time, they might add up only to full-time hours and mesns he is not working twice as hard.

[fiction-factory]

I had 3 'zero hours' jobs and have been furloughed by one (the main one ) but the other 2 don't seem interested. But even if they di none of them individually would reach the £2500 figure. I'm just grateful my company pension isn't being paid at a furloughed rate.

It's a good system which although it has some anomalies will help a lot of people.

I feel uneasy about those people who left a job of their own accord, usually for another job, being allowed/encouraged to ask for their old job back (or at least put back 'on the books' so they can get furlough payments.