Why Do They Need My Licence For A Fixed Penalty?

[ToraToraTora]

To accept a fixed penalty speeding ticket you pay £100 and get 3 points, fair enough but they demand you send your actual licence too. For what possible reason? You enter the driver number on the NIP so they can check you have it and endorsements are all on line now anyway. So is this just some pointless jobsworthery or is there some reason for it? Thanks.

[DTCwordfan]

Naught TTT - abandon the Ferrari!

[DTCwordfan]

Naughty...not Naught but there's a nice link between what I wrote - 'Naught TTT'

[wolf63]

This article is old but it may help.

https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/topic/369654-paid-speeding-fine-didnt-send-licence-now-summons-hrlp/

[tonyav]

A right old load of carp.

Why all of this is not necessary
The law changed in 2015. The paper driving licence counterpart was abolished. DVLA went over to a completely electronic system for storing penalty points. Before 2015 it made sense to post the driving licence in for endorsement. Courts physically wrote or printed the points on the counterpart.

There is no need to have the physical licence any more. Licence details are checked electronically with the driver number. Courts just send them straight back to the motorist after they enter the fixed penalty points by computer.

In fact, when drivers go to court, even for more serious cases, they no longer need to take their licence with them.

It is completely unnecessary for this rule still to exist. The police don’t want the licences, the courts don’t want the licences and drivers don’t want to send their licences off by post. But, the police and the courts have no power to change things. Only Parliament can do that.https://thedrivingsolicitor.co.uk/2018/06/16/post-in-your-driving-licence-when-you-accept-a-fixed-penalty-for-speeding/

[tonyav]

https://thedrivingsolicitor.co.uk/2018/06/16/post-in-your-driving-licence-when-you-accept-a-fixed-penalty-for-speeding/

[ToraToraTora]

yes but there is no actual administrative reason, just seems like deliberate bloody mindedness.

[tonyav]

But, the police and the courts have no power to change things. Only Parliament can do


Write to your MP then TTT.

[ToraToraTora]

thanks tony, so it's as I thought totally unnecessary.

[ToraToraTora]

Tony 20:17, not that bothered just wondered if there was a point to it.

[tonyav]

There is no point, TTT.

[THECORBYLOON]

There is a point, in fact, three of them...

[woofgang]

snigger

[piggynose]

Wouldn't it be ironic if 3t's local MP was Labour! Lol

[ToraToraTora]

do you seriously think I'd live in a constituency where there was the slightest chance of a Labour MP?

[Peter Pedant]

// yes but there is no actual administrative reason, just seems like deliberate bloody mindedness.//

foo den farden foo ! - a dumb question attracts dumb answers

you have to send in the paper licence because - - - - the electronic system doesnt work as well as
1) it was designed to
2)it should do
3) was meant to

but as ever on aryan bank ( hi TTT!) no one seems to know that

as TTT wd say - - - foo !

[ToraToraTora]

^^^^^ dunno what the nasties have said this time.

[THECORBYLOON]

I read it and was about to type a response but I'll not bother now. He was wrong anyway...

[gulliver1]

Are you asking for a friend TTT, or have you been caught out ?.

[gulliver1]

I think you should take the Police to court TTT, How dare they challenge you.

[gulliver1]

20.27 , TCL for best answer.