Temporary Entertainment Licence

[eve1974]

I'm swotting up for a short notice interview. It is for a role managing a small private estate and part of the interview might (??) cover the possibility to host events eg weddings, ).

So I guess a TENs would be needed. Temporary entertainment Notice. What I don't understand is this: (taken from the gov website)


You need a TEN for each event you hold on the same premises. (cool - easy to understand!)

You can get up to 5 TENs a year. If you already have a personal licence to sell alcohol, you can be given up to 50 TENs a year.

A single premises can have up to 15 TENs applied for in one year, as long as the total length of the events is not more than 21 days.

So in one part it says can have 5 TENS a year or 50 TENS a year (if there isa personal alcohol licence) but in the next paragraph it says maximum of 15 in a year

SO ....is it 5 or 15 without a personal alcohol licence? and if theres an alcohol licence is the max 15 or 50? Confused.

[bednobs]

Is there a difference in the amount that can be applied for and the amount that are granted? For example if you were turned down for 7 you could still apply 8 more times but only get5

[Buenchico]

For 'regular' licences (i.e. permanent ones) there are two distinct types. Each pub (for example) must have a premises licence AND at least one person running the pub must hold a personal licence. When trying to make sense of the TENs rules, you need to split the two types of licence up in your mind.

Let's say that you, Eve1974, want to hold a licensable event in your local village hall, which doesn't have a premises licence (and there's not a personal licence holder available to take charge of such events there):

You, as an individual, can only have your name on 5 TENs per year. They might all be in your local village hall but, if you so chose, they could be in five different village halls.

Your local village hall is considered as a premises though. Other people might want to apply for TENS there but the limit for events covered by TENs in that hall is 15 per year.

So the limit of 5 TENs applies to you, whereas the limit of 15 TENs applies to your village hall.

[eve1974]

Ah understand that now - or part of it (the 5 vs 15).
the 50 (ie If you already have a personal licence to sell alcohol, you can be given up to 50 TENs a year) does that mean that if I (eve) had a personal licence to sell alcohol I cld effectively have 50 TENS - but as any venue can only have a max of 15 I'd need to find various diff venues?

[eve1974]

In short - if (hypothetically) the venue (in this case a private estate with stately Manor House) wanted to host "low key" events throughout the year (2 / 3 per month) what is the best licence to apply for?

My reasons for the Q is that one of the questions that likely will come up in the interview is how this estate can generate some income from hosting events

TY Buenchico in advance - and anyone else who can assist

[Buenchico]

>>> does that mean that if I (eve) had a personal licence to sell alcohol I cld effectively have 50 TENS - but as any venue can only have a max of 15 I'd need to find various diff venues?

Yup. That's exactly it.

For the frequency of events you've mentioned, you'll need a premises licence
https://www.gov.uk/premises-licence
and a designated premises supervisor (possibly you), who must hold a personal licence
https://www.gov.uk/personal-licence-to-sell-alcohol

To obtain a personal licence, you (or the the relevant person) will need to hold a qualification from one of these bodies
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/accredited-personal-licence-qualification-providers/accredited-personal-licence-qualification-providers

It's not fantastically difficult to obtain the qualification. You just do some reading up and then sit a 40-minute online exam, which you can keep retaking (without extra charge) until you pass anyway. The cost is £150 through the BIIAB. On top of that, you need to pay £25 for your DBS certificate and £37 to apply for your personal licence:
https://www.biiab.org/useful-information/apply-for-a-personal-licence/

[eve1974]

That information is so helpful. Thank you so much! Really appreciate your input.

[Peter Pedant]

erm different people ?

per person or part of per person - albert and the lion

three people can do five each

you can do in your interview - that all-voe the licence concerns a place it involves a person applying and so the condition are attached to bofe da place and da peeps

( sorry essex accent slipping in there)

[eve1974]

PP I may well use the phrase //that all-voe the licence concerns a place it involves a person etc....//. although (all-voe) I might skip the Essex accent :)