Warning: Don't Lie On Your Cv

[Canary42]

Rather a landmark decision I would have thought. No doubt someone will correct me if that's wrong.

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/builder-ordered-pay-back-100k-lied-cv-095518694.html

[Zacs-Master]

He had some balls, I'll give him that. I bet there will be a few twitchy bums in senior positions when they read this.

[sandyRoe]

Do prospective employers not take up references any more?

[piggynose]

10 years, why did they take his CV at face value? Somebody in HR wasn't doing their job! So he had such a trustworthy face they didn't see the point in doing a background check!

[wolf63]

I had to supply references and get a check for any criminal history before I could start work in an Oxfam book and music shop.

[Peter Pedant]

of course it depends on which contract
'doctors' have to medically registered
lie and get a job - instant dismissal and pay back pay

and I thought this was based on misrepresentation ( Misrep act 1967 - whcih was a good shot buut not much used)

and if you makes statements on which the other party relies before a contract is struck then various unpleasant consequences can occur

so I saw this and thought 'oh'

[Ken4155]

Doesn't say what sparked the investigation that uncovered his lies. Possibly a tip-off?

[DTCwordfan]

Wolfie - I'm not surprised as to Oxfam's vigilence - all those dubious books, vids and substances that they sell.......

[barry1010]

People have been imprisoned for lying on their CV but I don't know if they had to pay monies back under the Proceeds of Crime Act

[wolf63]

Dtc, we actually have mooncups for sale just now. That was a bit of a surprise when I saw them.

[Paigntonian]

The NHS - yet again.

[bobbinwales]

This says more about the failing g's of the NHS RECRUITMENT PROCESS. Surely a good intervirwerwould of asked hom to give examples of how he'd tackle certain issues, and there should have been assentment centres where all candidates had to do roll plays,handle real life NHS problems / case studies and present action plans....and of course check references and ask for certificates. And was there no aptitude tests .
I think we do more checks for our supermarket for supervisor's or store staffcustomer services than they done in NHS for this role

[Buenchico]

People who've fallen foul of the law, after lying on their c.v., have posted here from time to time. e.g. https://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/Law/Question1576991.html

[Ken4155]

^
How do you know he wasn't asked questions along those lines, Bobb? By all accounts, he was quite decent at his job.

[bobbinwales]

Maybe he was ken,it just seems odd that a builder with no experience of NHS management and issues was able to get through the recruitment process for such a senior job and stand out above other candidates, some of who I bet had NHS senior management experience

[youngmafbog]

He lasted 10 years in the job and was good at it.

What this really shows is the incompetence and recruitment process is absolutely crap in the NHS.

We need MORE of this sort of person rather than the dross they actually employ.

As a rider I would like to say I dont agree with the fraud he committed.

[Peter Pedant]

judgement here

https://www.supremecourt.uk/cases/uksc-2020-0166.html

NHS case - non med - and the appeal ct said he didnt have to restitute - incredz: if he were a doctor he would

surprise ++

[bobbinwales]

Yes I can see if he were good at his job and never set any alarm bells off it does make you wonder how important them claimed qualifications really are and why there asked for, but he must of hoodwinked them about he's experience too at the interviews

[Peter Pedant]

I have given the ref for the supreme court case
which is worth a read
the position is not straightforward,
as he earned £1m over ten years and was good as his job
so there was a benefit

there appears to be agreement that if you do fraud by misrep and get £5000 but give £5000 in value
( you may be convicted for fraud and punished)
but.... an order for payment of £5000 'is inappropriate'
( the repayment is not part of the poonie)

read

[nailit]

//I had to supply references and get a check for any criminal history before I could start work in an Oxfam book and music shop//

This brings back memories of trying to start my life again after
A relationship breakup, a mental breakdown, a court case that went on for 10 months, nearly loosing my life, suicidal, and mental health services advising me to have a cup of tea and a hot bath.

Afterwards (and trying to piece my life together again) I tried to get some voluntary work .
Having previously worked as a voluntary worker I tried again.
Charity shops wanted a DBS.
SHOPS for gods sakes....

I was even honest with them about my record, but no chance...

Anyway, eventually landed on my feet with my present job.

[wolf63]

Nailit - I agree with you, it is a bit overkill when applying for a job in a charity shop. Alas, the DBS is an essential check these days - to protect the vulnerable, especially the under-18s who volunteer.

I love what I am doing, I do the accounts and input items that are to be sold online. I can take items home and work on them. It beats my previous life in DWP - 24 years and 33 days of it!