electrical certificate

[willowman]

Why do I now need some sort of certificate when electrical work is done in my house and how big does the job have to be before I need this certificate?
Can all electricians issue this certificate or do I now have to go to the trouble of finding certain electricians?

[Ethel]

If there is any electrical work in your kitchen or bathroom you must use a competent person authorised to issue a certificate re Part P.

Not all electricians can issue it.

I recently had work done in my bathroom by a family member and had it inspected and certified by a competent electrician. He was at my house for 2 and a half hours and charged me �50.

I suggest you speak to the building regs at your local council - they will be happy to advise you.

[raysparx1]

Hi willowman,
As stated by Ethel
Basically,any electrical work carried out in a kitchen,or Bathroom (special location) should be carried out by a Competant person,registered(Part p) with an association such as Napit or Eca or the nic, vitually all self employed electricians are now I would guess are registered by now,
the daft thing is,not all work has to be notified to the council, a spur off of a ring main to put extra socket in does not have to be or work in a lounge,it is a very grey area,as ideally that sort of work should have a minor works certificate,but there is nothing to stop people going to B&Q buying all they want and rewiring a house,any wholesaler will also sell the stuff to anybody,so at the moment the honest ones are being clobbered by the cost, I have just paid �350 to be registered for another year,plus the cost of notifying every job I do, but to be on the safe side you should get it done by someone registered,sorry I do gabble on a bit, Ray

Ethel, your inspection was very cheap,was it a periodic report ?

[beryllium]

I'm about to pay �80 for an inspection and then get some much needed work done. I'm using a niceic electrician as I want to be sure all is safe... :-) so glad you're around Ray still... B. xx

http://www.niceic.org.uk/

[turboped]

http://www.napit.org.uk/

[turboped]

Just to clarify - When work needs to be carried out in a 'special location' (kitchen, bathroom, outside etc) the the local authority need to be notified, if the electrician that is being used is a member of one of the approved organisations and is a certified part p installer then they can go ahead and do the work with the notification being submitted after. Otherwise the authroity need to be notified before work starts. I understand the rules but most local authorities are clueless and don't know what the hell they are doing. http://www.partp.co.uk/consumer/consumer_faq.a sp

[raysparx1]

Well said turbo, none of them have got a clue,hope you are well !!

[turboped]

Hi ray, came across two large electrical firms this week that also have no clue about the regs. One from Southport the other doing work for THE GAS BOARD!!!!

[raysparx1]

Hi turbo,

I am not surprised,I see a hell of a lot of things as well,We should start carrying the digital camera to work,take care, Ray

[Ethel]

raysparks - I had an ensuite shower, with required extractor, 2nd light put in my bathroom.

I had building regs permissions, got the work done and asked the council to inspect.

He asked for certificate, when I said I hadn't got one he reommended an electrician.

Never met the chap before, excellent, thorough inspection - tiny bit of work for him to make it absolutely right. 2 and a half hours later - �50 bill and the necessary paperwork.

Well chuffed. :)

[raysparx1]

Ethel,

You were very lucky,that was very cheap,nice to know there are still some decent tradesmen about,after all the bad press we get, you did the right thing,pity others don't take care, Ray

[naz_nomad]

nice to see Ray back on form again ... I was going to answer, but when I saw his name, I knew I didn't have to...

[raysparx1]

Cheers naz,your a good geezer !!!!

[willowman]

Thanks guys. Looks like a typical gov c***-up. Starts off with best of intentions but ends up a right mess.

[raysparx1]

Hi willowman,

You are dead right,the legislation was pushed through very quickly, I had to go back to college after being in my trade for 42 years,and my work was assesed by a 30 year old, I felt like telling him to fxxk off, till they stop the stores selling the stuff the Cowboys will win,cos they work for cash,Ray

[willowman]

Thanks ray.
Decided to approach the local council (didn't want them involved because once they stick their noses in anything can happen). Gentleman asked several probing questions but after consultation with somebody else decided that, as the work was being done in outbuildings which were part of our home based business then it was commercial premises and they did not want to know and did not have to be informed! So for once it looks as if it has all ended happily. By the way, he also admitted that there were so many rules and regulations that even they did not know what to do sometimes, and he thought it was time he retired!