a tip on seatbelt law

[helpmetoo]

of course it is extrememly stupid and irresponsible not to wear a seatbelt in a vehicle, so that should stop the self righteous lot from harping on that it should not be a matter of choice whether you die outright or assume a vegetable state for the rest of your life,

therefore should one genuinely forget to adorn ones belt and the police stop you accordingly....better than catching murderers and rapists of course, relate the law on the matter...

exemption 'while performing a manoeuvre which includes reversing'

e.g. i have reversed out of my drive and am proceeding with the manoeuvre for 30 miles till such time that i park which will involve a corresponding reversing action on termination

[Lakitu]

I don't see how anyone could forget to put on a seat belt, it's like forgetting to brush your teeth in the morning.

If the police stop anyone, then they're just doing their job. It's hardly a hardship to take 2 seconds out of your time to put it on.

[ChuckFickens]

if you can convince them your daily trip to work is a procession organised by or on behalf of the Crown you wouldn't need one either

or maybe perform a citizens arrest on your wife/husband then you could claim the trip to the shop was being undertaking by a person driving or riding in a vehicle while it is being used for carrying a person in lawful custody (the person who is being so carried being included in this exemption);


Probably much easier and safer just to wear a seatbelt though..

[Ethel]

But the law also requires you to perform such a manoeuvre for a short a time as is necessary to perform it safely, so that won't work

[gouldc]

I was always taught to put my belt on before starting the negine - it's not rocket science is it?

[deggers316]

who's bothered about these idiots who don't belt up there the ones who'll suffer in a crash ,(apart from the nhs bill)the kids are the worst at this,possibly because they have never experienced severe deceleration,

[jake-the-peg]

If you really are that desperate buy and run a vintage car.

If the car was never fitted with belts you're not obliged to use them.

Plus the added benefit of definately dying in a crash due to the lack of other modern safety features

[joggerjayne]

A tip on mobile phones.

Under the battery compartment of your mobile, keep a slip of paper with your name and land line number on, in case your phone is mislaid.

If (just suppose) you were caught using your phone in the car, if you slipped the paper over the battery terminals and clicked the battery back on over it, your phone would appear dead. How could you have been on the phone (officer), look, the battery is totally flat.

Obviously this is naughty, and illegal, which is why I stress that you should not do this under any circumstances.

[Lakitu]

It takes me all my time to get the cover off my phone to even get to the battery, I'd be well and truly busted if I used and was caught using my phone.

[kempie]

Would the slip of paper also erase the phone's call records held on the handset and/or the network?

[Paul22118]

If you cannot conform to the law of the land, like the majority oif us, buy an Oyster card. And purrleeze spare us the cr*p about why aren't you catching burglars.

[helpmetoo]

there are good and bad laws of course,

spose if you were to try and use a london taxi you wouldnt think it unfair that there was no room to sit because of the bail of hay they are still obliged to carry for the horse!

were burglars mentioned?

blind opinion

[joggerjayne]

No kempie. You can remove your battery, can't you?

So when you put it back, it doesn't make contact with the phone's terminals because of the paper.

Or so I've been told. Obviously, I would never dream of doing such a thing.

[kempie]

...and whilst examining your phone the police would not find the slip of paper - they are indeed that stupid?

As for the hoary old chestnut of London taxis carrying a bale of hay...

http://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/History/Questio n239011.html

[joggerjayne]

Oh Officer, thank you so much. I've been wondering why it hasn't been working all week. You're so clever.

(tugs cleavage a bit further on)

And that is such a smart uniform. Are those real handcuffs?

(stops before truncheons enter the conversation)

[New Judge]

And by the way (I don't think it's been mentioned)

The Highway Code (para 203) says you MUST NOT reverse your vehicle farther than necessary. "Must Not" in the Highway Code means it is against the law and you may struggle to argue that it was necessary to reverse for 30 miles.

[helpmetoo]

judge

the move starts with a little reversing and also finishes with reversing but the 30 mile bit would be with forward gears engaged

[New Judge]

Sorry I did not get a clear picture of what you meant.

Reversing manoeuvres are not specifically described in the legislation and it would be up to a bench of magistrates to decide if what you describe consisted of a single "manoeuvre which includes reversing". You may encounter some difficulty convincing them.