Refused a job because of a CCJ

[dave2222]

I have recently being refused a job due to a CCJ i have. The job has nothing to do with money or managing. Is this discrimination and if not how are you suppose get back on your feet if you cant get a job?

[dave2222]

I was also told if the CCj was below £5000 i would have been ok but because its £6000 i cant have the job.

[chilliwitch]

i'm not sure of the ins and outs of this but regardless this shouldn't affect how you do a job or how good you will be at the said job.People make mistakes in life,we all have but like you say if you're not given a chance how can you improve yourself??Grrrrr Makes me bloody angry!!

[dave2222]

Sorry, the job has nothing to do with handling or managing of money.

[ummmm]

I think Zac means that every job is about making the company money/earning money. It's all about money.

[hc4361]

It's not discrimination so there is nothing you can do about it.

[bednobs]

it is discrimination, but companies are allowed to be discriminative when looking at who they will employ. Your example is nothing - my husband had to have all his bank acounts/credit cards looked at AND MINE! they wanted to look at statements for all of them, then they wrote hm a letter saying "we re offering you the job, however, we notice you have a rather high level of debt, so we will be chcking again in 2 years and expect you to have done something abut it"

[buildersmate]

Yes, as bednobs correctly asserts, it is discrimination but it is not unlawful discrimination.
Fortunately the majority of employers do utilise discrimination in their recruitment processes because, if they didn't, they may just as well draw names from a hat - that would be a process without discrimination.
I said the 'majority of employers' - the notable exception appears to be some elements of the civil service.

[Androcles]

Just speculating, but the fact that there is a specific cash limit on this CCJ (£5000 according to what you said in your second post,) it sounds as if the company may have an insurance policy which prevents them from recruiting if the potential employee has a CCJ above their limit? Might be worth a polite letter to ask, so you know?

[dave2222]

buildersmate instead of drawing names out of a hat hows about just picking whos best for the job not whos got most money.

[R1Geezer]

they are entitled to have their own recruitment rules, clearly they are not comfortable hiring those who do not pay their debts. The existance of a CCJ, which is avoidable, is a good indicator of character. I am surprised they have an arbitrary limit on amount though.

[scott1975]

do u really want to work for a company that likes to dig around in ur private monetary affairs? i thought the police and such were the only ones that would insist on not having debt -so u couldnt be blackmailed etc

[dave2222]

R1geezer the CCJ was not avoidable i lost my joinery job in jan and had to go on jobseekers. I offerd them a amount which they declined so they could get a charge on my home. So no you cant judge someone on there debt in the current climate this was unavoidable for me.

[Whoever]

I agree it seems unfair discrimination but you don't say which job sector you applied for a job in. There are some professions which will not employ anybody if they have certain financial judgements against them, especially in the finance/accounting/legal sector. There will also be some employers who will not employ anybody in financial difficulties in jobs which involve handling money for fear that they might be tempted to engage in fraud to resolve/reduce their problems.
In the current climate of recession and widespread redundancies one would have thought that if an employee is suffering difficulties they would be prepared to employ them if a thorough reference checking system revealed that they were a reliable employee of good character. Don't give up on this one. Could you not go back to the company and explain your difficulties and ask if they will reconsider their decision if you can produce some additional good character references? Do you still have any contacts at your previous company who would be prepared to act in this way on your behalf?

[dave2222]

i am currently working in the same job i applied for, i have sent a letter of apeal in a nice manner of course but im not to botherd now as i have a interview on fri with another firm who said il be fine with the CCJ i have. I just have to make sure i dont mess the interview up.

[Legionreturns]

I am in the same boat, due to the economic climate I lost my job, tried to run my own business which then failed due to the ever worsening climate (and the fact that the local authority, who I did a lot of contract work for when self employed) don't pay invoices for 3 months at a time. This basically rendered me in an impossible cashflow situation. So, I ended up losing car, and defaulting on a loan despite offers to pay within my current means.

The snag here, is that now these companies have CCJs against me, I can no longer return to work in the sector that I am most suitably qualified for, so they will be waiting even longer for their money, if they get it at all!

Personally though, I very much resent the assumption that because you have debt, you will steal from your employers and clients. I thought, rather stupidly, that your criminal record would be a better indicator of this than your financial one!