fraud

[MissZI]

if you have commited fraud and its your first offense what is the most likely sentence?

[Eve]

Depends on what it is you have actually done.

Fraud could mean all kinds of things from something relatively trivial to full on multimillion pound financial crime!

I know the latter isn't likely for on here but much more context needed.

[MissZI]

well basically this case is about a friend. She took out a loan on her car because she owed some money to people that you would not want to ever meet. Than she reported the log book stolen, and when DVLA sent her another book, she took out another loan and reported it stolen, and bascially DVLA suspected somthing was wrong and they have reported it to the poilce. She has to attend court this month and is worried about the outcome she has got some legal advice, which state that she might get 5 years!!!

[brenda]

So what is the problem with that ? Sounds a right tea-leaf.

[pink-kittens]

How much was involved?
I know someone who was involved in what was called, bascially, fraud although it was given some long winded title. He was convicted of drefrauding his company of an 'estimated' £10,000 although he insists it was no where near even half of that. He was given 10 months at crown court.

[boxtops]

Someone I worked distantly with appropriated £40K from her workplace. She is in jail for 4 years and her goods have been seized by the courts to pay back the money.

[sara3]

you can get a loan for a car you already own?

[hc4361]

Yes, you give your logbook as security.
http://www.v5loans.co.uk/

[sara3]

well well well.. what a sheltered world I live in!

[MissZI]

not much around £1,500

[MissZI]

not much around £1,500

[Mrsab]

just checked out the what outrageous interest, daylight robbery or what
must have been in severe distress to get a loan from such an establishment
.
http://www.v5loans.co.uk/

[MissZI]

not sure where she got the loan from. Anyway no one has really told me the answer to my question but thanks for all the advice.

[boxtops]

...and I complain about 2% per month on one of my credit cards... gee, that's extortionate.

[pink-kittens]

http://www.cps.gov.uk...tencing_manual/fraud/

Look here althought you had some pretty relevant replies IMO
GIYF and it was pretty easy to find

[Jemisa]

I think the Q has been answered, perhaps not the answer you want but it seems to me she will be going away.
Who knows what sort of mood the Judge will be in that day?....
What do they say - - -? If you can't do the Time - Don't do the crime.

jem

[sara3]

MissZI, I don't deal with this type of fraud, but in my "other" fraud experience, I would say fraud relating to £1500.. would stay in magistrates, is very "lower end" for sentencing, could get a Conditional Discharge or lower end Community Punishment Order (community service), poss 100 hours ish. she may incur some charges, but they shouldn't fine her if it's just going to put her deeper in debt.

no guarantees though.. it's really not my kinda fraud!

[MissZI]

thank you for the cps link was very useful.

[sara3]

you're welcome.

oh....... !