Wood burning fire's.....

[Craftypig]

I'm thinking of replacing my electric fire in my living room with a wood burning fire. Do I need to get one that has a flue or can I use a flueless fire instead?

[Buenchico]

There are some flueless models available. e.g. here:
http://www.foryourfir...od_Burning_Stove.html

Chris

[Craftypig]

Hmmm....food for thought there Buenchico, thanks for the info. It would be ideal if I didnt need to fit a flue, would save time and money.

[ELVIS68]

Where does the smoke go if it`s flueless?

[Barmaid]

Just remember that if you do go for an open fire, lovely as it is, you will spend the rest of your life dusting!

[ummmm]

And not just the mantle piece...Every wall will need dusting...

[Craftypig]

My thought exactly Elvis68, there are flueless fires available which makes me wonder if flueless fires can only be used in certain rooms or under certain conditions, not to mention smokeless fuel, can this kind of fuel only be used in flueless fires..........

Good point barmaid, the extra cleaning had crossed my mind too........

[Barmaid]

I once lived in a very old farmhouse. Gorgeous as it was it used to drive me mad that I could have everything spotless then light the fires (no central heating) and within a day or so everything would need dusting again. Worth thinking about. As ummm said, even the walls attract the smut.

[mabel1]

I have 2 log burning stoves.Wouldn't be without them.

[Twenty20]

>I have 2 log burning stoves.Wouldn't be without them.

Interesting, but doesn't go very far in answering the question.

[jake-the-peg]

Chris's link says:

*Design to look just like and open wood burning stove*


Check out the firelaces that you can cover over like these:

http://www.dovre.co.u...anopy-fireplaces.html

Got one a few years back - pretty good

[The Builder]

I guess you have the elec. fire fitted in a standard fireplace opening Crafty .......... Chris's link to flueless inserts is excellent. Not expensive either. Other stand-alone w/burners can be fitted as well as the insert fireplaces.
The "flueless" is an advertising nonsense .......... of course it needs a flue! ...... it's just that they suggest you "might" not have to fit a liner (metal/pumice or whatever.)

[nonomaybe]

the cassettes inserted into an existing fireplace do not always need an added flue as shown on the first page of the site mentioned by Buenchico but the seal between the fire and the housing is critical, so for the slight additional cost, a flue lining is preferable. which is why multifuel stoves have flues running through. We have a wood burning stove which we placed in our open fireplace and because our brick chimney failed the pressure test (they don't use lime in the mix for their stacks here!!) ran a metal flue up the original chimney - the whole thing easily installed by a proficient DIY-er.

[annie0000]

we have a flueless gas fire that has a sort of extracter fitted to the outside wall, but we find it noisy so don't used the fire at all. I don't know if the flueless wood burners use the same principal, but it may be worth trying to see one in action. We live in a new build timber frame housing estate and a neighbour has installed a woodburner, we have no chimneys at all. they seem to have run a flue up the inside wall and through their bedroom - there is a small flue cap through the roof - I think they are lucky enough that the bedroom wardrobe is over that same wall as the woodburner so it is not so obvious that you now have a pipe running up the wall of the bedroom as it must be some way into the room judging by where the pipe emerges.

[nonomaybe]

Annie, you can install a wood-burner in your chimneyless house, you cut through the wall,usually just above the stove and lead the flue up the outside wall. Where any part of the flue is within contact range it will carry extra insulation. You don't need forced extraction, coz heat rises and as long as you have the angles you'll be fine.
I wonder if your neighbour's rig has been OK'd by the insurance company coz it seems a bit dodgy to me.If it's a go for you ,do it properly ,so that if you ever sell it will be an add-on .

[dollhouse]

Twenty20 - Mabel 1 comment was just that, a comment as was three or so others, as was yours and indeed as is mine. Didn't realise a pre-requisite of joining this site was to have a saracastic nature.

[nonomaybe]

dollhouse I think Twenty20 is practising for chatterbank.

[bentaxle]

Had a neighbour with a wood burner but he took it out because on damp heavy days the smoke found its way under the roof tiles and through any other gaps and it smelt throughout the house

[annie0000]

hi nonomaybe - I believe they got planning permission for it - I doubt they would be allowed to have the pipe going up the outside as the outside wall is open to the street on the corner. Otherwise it wouldn't surprise me, they are annoying the neighbourhood quite a lot! They decided to let their garden grow wild and scattered it with wild flowers and don't cut the grass, they are restoring an old car which sits on the drive and the guy is in to CB radio and has two huge masts which are currently the subject of a neighbour dispute - he doesn't have planning for them and they are above the roofline. He also erected a dodgy looking canopy thing between his side door and fence.

Alll of the above would be fine if he was living in a rural setting instead of a new build executive style housing estate!

I quite fancy a woodburner too after enjoying my bosses one in her holiday house. I would be in the same boast though, the outside wall of my living room is a feature wall on a corner - I would never be allowed to have a pipe running up the outside and don't fancy anything that hot on the inside of my timber frame!

[netibiza]

Like nonomaybe, we have put our Jotul log burning stovepipe up the chimney. Have to say the heat is incredible , too hot sometimes, and it does heat the whole (small) villa. Don't notice a lot of dust.

[BRIGHT SPARK]

The flueless woodburner is as rare as the cordless extension lead......they dont exist. We have 2 woodburners..a 16kw and a 10kw.They should be installed by a HETAS registered installer or inspected by building control,the regs are quite straightforward and common sense.That said they eat wood at an alarming rate.Last winter ours consumed.22 tons.We get very little mess apart from when the ashes are cleared...if youre carefull its ok.We have an A rated condensing heating system as back up but hardly use it.