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Horizon last night - anyone see it?
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Ok we all know we get fat because of a calories surplus but this program explained quite well I thought why certain people are always hungry and thus consume too many calories. What I found interesting is that fat people don't get anything like the hunger pangs of thin people but they get them continually and the "full up" feeling is much shorter lived. So untreated are fat people just pi55ing in the wind trying to lose weight?
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It is a balance between calorie intake and burning them off and people have different metabolisms.
I think certain things can make you feel hungry and there are medical conditions which can alter the matabolism which can lead to weight gain (or difficulty losing it) like thyroid and PCOS.
I found getting medication for a malabsorption condition I have was quite a revalation in that I don't feel so hungry/empty so much - I think the urgh feeling with it encouraged me to eat more (especially bad stuff) to get a sugar fix to wake up and keep going.
Again though it does come down to what you eat. I ate a lot of crap - a lot of microwave meals as a quick fix and used to eat out a lot. When I was advised to go on a very low fat diet (which doesn't necessarily mean low calries though) after my gallbladder got infection I was horrified seeing just how much fat is in everything.
I've lost 2 stone since November.
I think eating a lot of crap leads to a lot of empty calories, things which don't fill you up for long so you just end up being hungry again quickly and eating more crap or going for larger portions. If someone is overweight I also think that just being bigger can make it harder to get around (and exercise to burn off calories and get fitter) leading to eating more for energy. A lot of it is a vicious circle and false perception.
You also have the comfort eating aspect or people who just love food which is high in calories without compromise in frequency or portion control.
I think certain things can make you feel hungry and there are medical conditions which can alter the matabolism which can lead to weight gain (or difficulty losing it) like thyroid and PCOS.
I found getting medication for a malabsorption condition I have was quite a revalation in that I don't feel so hungry/empty so much - I think the urgh feeling with it encouraged me to eat more (especially bad stuff) to get a sugar fix to wake up and keep going.
Again though it does come down to what you eat. I ate a lot of crap - a lot of microwave meals as a quick fix and used to eat out a lot. When I was advised to go on a very low fat diet (which doesn't necessarily mean low calries though) after my gallbladder got infection I was horrified seeing just how much fat is in everything.
I've lost 2 stone since November.
I think eating a lot of crap leads to a lot of empty calories, things which don't fill you up for long so you just end up being hungry again quickly and eating more crap or going for larger portions. If someone is overweight I also think that just being bigger can make it harder to get around (and exercise to burn off calories and get fitter) leading to eating more for energy. A lot of it is a vicious circle and false perception.
You also have the comfort eating aspect or people who just love food which is high in calories without compromise in frequency or portion control.
my parents were the same shape and weight when they married, same diet, same exercise, same everything. One got fat, one didn't. And what's more us kids took after them in looks, colouring - and shape too. (Fair, thin parent> fair, thin kids; dark, fat parent>dark, fat kids.) It's never a surprise to me when scientists say ooh, maybe there's a genetic element.
Fat people can lose weight through diet or exercise but it'll be harder than it is for thin people. Treatment can't be... to coin a phrase... "one size fits all". My own feeling is I just have to live with it.
Fat people can lose weight through diet or exercise but it'll be harder than it is for thin people. Treatment can't be... to coin a phrase... "one size fits all". My own feeling is I just have to live with it.
I was hoping that this programme might explain why I am now overweight as even after having 3 children I was really slim, but once I reached middle age the weight piled on.
I've always believed it's because I'm not as active as I once was because the food I eat is fine, but that doesn't explain why people I know who are less active than me are really thin.
The twin thing was interesting though, that one twin can be normal weight while the other one is overweight even though they lead similar lifestyles.
I've always believed it's because I'm not as active as I once was because the food I eat is fine, but that doesn't explain why people I know who are less active than me are really thin.
The twin thing was interesting though, that one twin can be normal weight while the other one is overweight even though they lead similar lifestyles.
Like all 'addictions', yes, eating can be driven by genetic factors of 'body chemistry'. Trouble is that other addictions are not to something which is essential to life.But fat people can learn stategies to combat this drive.
That obesity is related to body chemistry is known to us dog breeders!I've known at least three litters where one pup was far hungrier than its siblings, right from the start, and grew into an obese dog, while all its siblings remained normal. The pup would use any number of deceits to ensure that it got food first or to take food intended for its siblings and this continued all through its adult life; the need for food overrode all other thoughts continuously. The only way to control this is by physically preventing access to food; the dog can't aid itself and as far as it's concerned it is normal and happy. That sounds familiar, doesn't it ?
That obesity is related to body chemistry is known to us dog breeders!I've known at least three litters where one pup was far hungrier than its siblings, right from the start, and grew into an obese dog, while all its siblings remained normal. The pup would use any number of deceits to ensure that it got food first or to take food intended for its siblings and this continued all through its adult life; the need for food overrode all other thoughts continuously. The only way to control this is by physically preventing access to food; the dog can't aid itself and as far as it's concerned it is normal and happy. That sounds familiar, doesn't it ?
the average mans weight in the 1950s was 10st its now 12st and rising
the horizon prog was interesting but its still what you "shovel" down your throat, if this horizon theory is right how come that over the past 10 years the amount of fat people you see daily has rocketed
by the way we have a very large polish community here , hard working and so slim !
the horizon prog was interesting but its still what you "shovel" down your throat, if this horizon theory is right how come that over the past 10 years the amount of fat people you see daily has rocketed
by the way we have a very large polish community here , hard working and so slim !
Saw the last half of it. Interesting, but not overly surprising that different folk experience things differently.
Nevertheless you are what or who you are, you can only play to strengths and avoid weaknesses. Fat people can still make an effort, but maybe some who just like to cast blame around can try to be more understanding and sympathetic.
I thought it strange though, that bypassing the stomach caused a mental improvement. One might have thought a permanently empty stomach would be encouraging continuous hunger. But not so it seems.
Nevertheless you are what or who you are, you can only play to strengths and avoid weaknesses. Fat people can still make an effort, but maybe some who just like to cast blame around can try to be more understanding and sympathetic.
I thought it strange though, that bypassing the stomach caused a mental improvement. One might have thought a permanently empty stomach would be encouraging continuous hunger. But not so it seems.
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