MOT - Car Has Technically Failed

[chrissa1]

Right. My daughter's car has failed its MOT and needs a few spare parts to pass. She is heading South to London tomorrow in the car.

It is a week before her original MOT expires but the lady at the garage told her it has technically failed and is therefore is registered on the system as a fail.

As she can't stay up here to get the work done and drove the car down, would she "ping" an ANPR on the motorway?

Is this correct?

[daffy654]

Yes it is correct. Her car has now been certified as un-roadworthy/has no current M.O.T. certificate. Her insurance will be invalidated because of this.

[chrissa1]

Why this appeared in Media/TV I'll never know. Lol.

Thanks Daffy654. We're looking at flights now or Hire Cars. It's a bummer.

[VHG]

Maybe stating the obvious but not a good idea to MOT a car the day before you have a long trip to make.

[rojash]

I'm pretty sure that you can drive the car to a garage to be fixed. Which means as long as she has an appointment with a garage in London, she can drive it to London.

[lankeela]

Would you be happy with her driving a car you know is unroadworthy? Its not just that the 'paperwork' is out of date, its the fact that the car failed because there are things wrong with it. How would you feel if something happened on the journey and the car crashed and killed your daughter or someone else?

[chrissa1]

LOL @ rojash.

No, of course not Lankeela and that's why she has now booked a flight to get there. It was just a general question and the car is not a "death trap".

[factor-fiction]

I question the view that her insurance will be invalidated because of this. This issue comes up quite often on here and a number of times those with knowledge in this area have shown that it doesn't on its own invalidate insurance

[ChuckFickens]

it's fine (from a legal point of view)

The car was MOTd until the date the previous one ran out, failing an MOT does not invalidate the previous MOT.

From a personal point of view, it will depend on what's it failed for as to if it's safe to drive or not.

[ChuckFickens]

"Her insurance will be invalidated"

Please will people stop it with that bit of misinformation!

[chrissa1]

I take your point factor. I know that if a car without an MOT pings up, then it's highly likely that there is no tax either and therefore no insurance.

[bundleone]

As I understand it, if the car is dangerous to drive the garage can refuse to release it to the owner and it is impounded. She should make an appointment at her local area and drive it there, then she is legally covered.

[Gizmonster]

Can I just clear up things regarding no MOT invalidating your insurance.
Unless things have changed quite recently, then no MOT does NOT invalidate your insurance.
A friend borrowed my car a while ago and crashed it (that's what friends are for !!). My car was a write-off and the insurance company asked for all the documents, including the MOT. To my horror, the MOT had expired by a week or so (a genuine mistake) and I was panicking that no MOT would invalidate my insurance. All the insurance company did was to pay me less money for my car.
The value they originally put on my car (approx £1300) was dropped to around £1050 (I can't remember the exact amounts) as this was the amount they reckoned my car would be worth with no MOT.
I hope this helps clear things up :)

[EDDIE51]

The current MOT is still valid until the end date on it , the garage is talking rubbish to try to get her to put the car in for repair and make a nice profit.
Let us once and for all stop this rubbish that no MOT means the insurance is invalid , this is NOT the case. I have lost count of the times this bullsh1t was been refuted on here.
There is no such thing as a 'registered fail' just no new MOT issued.

[owdhamer]

Leave the car at home.

[chrissa1]

Thanks for all your input guys. I must admit, I thought the "no insurance" was iffy. However she has managed to get flights quite reasonably priced, PLUS she gets to come home to me for a further four days. Yaaaaay.

[chrissa1]

EDDIE, I wish you'd seen my post this afternoon. Lol.

[mike11111]

I like the title of this post: The car has "technically"failed, but metaphysically it is in complete tune with the cosmos.

[EDDIE51]

By the way the ANPR cameras DO NOT pick up no MOT they are only looking for tax and insurance.
I know this for a fact , driving with no MOT is a fixed penalty notice of £60 it does not give you points on your licence or effect insurance it is not a conviction.

[johnny37]

While taking into account all the comments above, surely knowingly driving a car in unroadworthy condition is an offence?

ps doesnt the rule about driving it to a garage with an appointment have to be reasonably close and driven directly to. Otherwise you could drive from Lands End to John O Grotes and back,

[chrissa1]

That's why she has flown down johnny37.....she said through gritted teeth.

I think rojash was taking the mickey.