Harry Potter and the horcruxes in The AnswerBank: Arts & Literature

good question..... and y doesnt dumbledore (haha he's got dumb in his name) just pour out the potion once it is in the cup?

RoseB

I believe that he is able to split his soul again, but that just makes the one he has within him weaker and weaker and like he said in the book, "Seven is a good strong number"(not sure if that's a direct quote, but it was something like that). He just thought Seven sounded good and no one had even done that many before.

As for dumping out the potion after he scooped it up, good question. Perhapes there was some enchantment that you wouldn't be allowed to get anymore until that cup full was down you, or it wouldn't let you put it on the ground, and if you did you'd disturb the water or it would slip into the water. I dunno.

bobalobabob

i think he can but isnt cos he thinks they are all still intact doesnt he? and it was that 7 is a highly magical number

uber_panda

I think he couldnt because he couldnt split up his soul any more because once the horcrux is destroyed the soul goes with it. If he split his soul anymorei dont think he would barely have any. But then again isnt thata good thing since it woudl mean that he wouldn't have anymore humanity in him?

purple_spots

u r full of cr%p.

Snape is bad and always will be.

Harry is not a horacrux.

dumbledore is not dead! he will help harry as a ghost, or will come back 2 life...somehow.

P.S. Hermione and Ron will go out and Harry and Ginny will get back together and then they will double-date and get married at the same time and have children with red hair, and they will be each other's son's and daughter's godparents and harry will be an Auoror or howeva u spell it.

AND....................... Harry will find all the Death eaters and kill them an malfoy (hehehehe) and he'll get all the hoorcuxes and destroy them all and voldermort will die and harry will become immortal

And........ he will take over as headmaster of hogwarts

And....................hermionies and rons kids and his and ginnys kids will all b in gryffindor

AND.......................................Snape will die

AND................almost done Hagrid will marry that giant lady from book four and have little Hagrids.

purple_spots

u r full of cr%p.

Snape is bad and always will be.

Harry is not a horacrux.

dumbledore is not dead! he will help harry as a ghost, or will come back 2 life...somehow.

P.S. Hermione and Ron will go out and Harry and Ginny will get back together and then they will double-date and get married at the same time and have children with red hair, and they will be each other's son's and daughter's godparents and harry will be an Auoror or howeva u spell it.

AND....................... Harry will find all the Death eaters and kill them an malfoy (hehehehe) and he'll get all the hoorcuxes and destroy them all and voldermort will die and harry will become immortal

And........ he will take over as headmaster of hogwarts

And....................hermionies and rons kids and his and ginnys kids will all b in gryffindor

AND.......................................Snape will die

AND................almost done Hagrid will marry that giant lady from book four and have little Hagrids. AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

bobalobabob

wait a sec, does he hav to make all the horcruxes at once?? or otherwise wouldn't the first one have half 2nd hav a 1/4 3rd an 1/8 ect???

RoseB

hmm, that's a good point. Maybe the rest of it just splits magically along with the rest, but that really wouldn't make sense.

AngEL5942

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or maybe once u split it and make that part of the soul into a horcrux, you can't split it again

redtailhawk

No, Riddle stated 7 is supposed to be the most powerful magical number (not verbatim but generally correct). It's not that he can't make them as much as he was trying to make the most powerful horcruxes and was using all magical means to do so...numerologically, more than likely astrologically and so on, JKR has definitely done her research.

moonshine

no i think somehow all seven pieces of his soul are supposed to be the same size, 7 is the most powerful magical number so that why he has seven, and he doesn't feel it wen their bein destroyed so i reckon that wen harry finally faces voldemort and tries to kill him,that he will still think he's immortal. if he believes all of his horcruxes are still intact then he would have no reason to make more.

redtailhawk

Hypothetically speaking, energy has no size, it has power (energy can be transformed but never destroyed, basic physics/basic metaphysics too). I find it interesting that physical items are needed to contain the pieces of his immortal soul he has split and yet he's seemingly unaware that the locket has already been taken? Unless the locket/horcrux being taken isn't the issue as much as it's destruction. RAB I think is Regulus Black- a locket was found in a cabinet/armoire in the Black's home...could be too obvious a conclusion to make but then again in the mystery genre sometimes circumstantial evidence is exactly that- circumstantial.

In Book 4- the scene in the cemetary where Harry's wand finally overpowered Voldemort's, the shades of the people killed by Voldemort's use of HIS wand for murder, reappear in the order they were slain- Cedric Digory, the Riddle's estate caretaker, Bertha, James and Lily Potter to help Harry...it seems to me Voldemort has very specific people he kills, because the other deaths of witches and wizards are accomplished via command by Voldemort to the Death Eaters. What I am getting at here is this...Voldemort knows he himself can't kill indiscrimately as that will weaken him in terms of soul/power/energy...it seems to me that he kills or killed whom he needed to when he needed to, to complete the splitting of his soul to vibration of the number 7 which incidentally my research into the mythology and history of the number 7 does show it to have been considered by many cultures to be extremely powerful and magical.

billabong

I think that Horcrux's magic can NEVER be removed, only put to sleep. Only when a horcrux is COMPLETELY destroyed, IE not just split in half, healable, but in a THOUGSAND pieces, it is destroyed. Therefore the late Dumbledore's ring will one day become cursed again.

MorninStar

Voldemort has a warped & evil mind. Criminal minds often think in magical terms. 'If I do this like so, then everything connected with it will be perfect. Voldemort felt 7 was 'perfection'.If his soul was split in 2 when the 1st horcrux was created,he only has 1/2 a soul left,so when he splits it again there is only 1/4 of a soul in the 2nd horcrux & Voldemort. By the 6th horcrux & what remains in Voldemort it would be 1/64th of the original soul. I guess that not only have the diary & ring & possibly the locket been destroyed, but also another bit when he tried to kill Harry. I think Harry's scar (NOT Harry) might be a horcrux. I dont' know if this was intentional or even if Voldemort is aware of it. When Harry told Dumbledore (in GoF) that Voldemort used his blood in the rebirthing ceremony Dumbledore got a 'gleam of triumph' in his eye because he realized something very important.Voldemort believes he has overcome this powerful magic that was in Harry's blood by his mother's sacrifice. According to the prophecy; 'the one with the power to vanquish the dark lord approaches..he will have a power the dark lord knows not...' So Dumbledore chose to sacrifice himself so that Harry would continue to have 'a power the dark lord knows not'. This special protection would not have worked if anyone other than Snape killed Dumbledore because they would not realize that Dumbledore was sacrificing himself for Harry & continued protection.
In the end, Harry will continue to have special protection so that when the Dark Lord tries to use the Avada Kedavra curse on him it will once again rebound - hit Voldemort, using up the last horcrux/bit of soul (if the others are destroyed) & if the last horcrux is Harry's scar... the scar will vanish.

redtailhawk

I believe the scar is the last horcrux too and it will ultimately be Voldemort's downfall...Book 6 indicates Harry will probably return to Godric's Hollow after staying with the Dursleys one last time...I'm hoping Fawkes shows up there...although I agree that Dumbledore sacrificed himself, I think it was not only for Harry because of his importance but for Draco as well...Dumbledore would have rather have died than allow another "innocent" to be destroyed by Voldemort directly or indirectly (Draco may be an arrogant spoiled nasty little bully but he's not a murderer)...I believe he pleaded for and to Severus because he and Dumbledore already discussed the possibility that Severus would have to kill Dumbledore...which is why Severus was able to commit to the Unbreakable Vow magic with Narcissa and perform the killing curse in place of Draco...so my next question...what did that do to Snape's soul?

redtailhawk

Also, here's what I counted in terms of horcruxes, not including the portion of soul that must stay within Voldemort- ring (destroyed), diary (destroyed), locket (missing not destroyed, possibly locket in Black family home), Hufflepuff's cup (missing or hidden), Nagini the snake, 7th portion (I think) scar.

MorninStar

Redtailhawk, You've brought up some really good points. I too think that Dumbledore did not want another innocent soul to be destroyed by Voldemort (Draco). Think of what would have become of Draco had he achieved the goal set before him! He would have been raised to the highest status among the Death eaters.

I do wonder what will become of Snapes soul. It seems so sad if he is as loyal to Dumbledore as I think he is.

The horcruxes-I am thinking that a horcrux/bit of soul must have been destroyed when the Avada Kedvara curse rebounded to Voldemort when he tried to kill Harry, so would one of the horcrux items now be inert? I think he 'used up' one in that encounter. Also, just because the item is no longer a horcrux doesn't mean it no longer exists. The diary was still a diary...just no longer a horcrux when Harry stuck the basilisk fang into it.

redtailhawk

MorninStar, thank you, you've given an intriguing view on these characters as well that's for sure. I love the wonderful saga that JKR has created and I am and I am not looking forward to the 7th book...I want the mystery to be solved but I don't want the series to be over :), oh well all good things must end at some point in time. As a writer myself, I find it's better to leave a story still loving the characters and the world you have developed, instead of getting caught up in the commercial hype and greed thereby killing your creativity and imagination for future storylines.

Snape has always struck me as tortured...a sad lonely angry man caught in a world of lost hopes, dreams, and pain...and we all have read enough true stories to know what that can do to a human being, especially children who are the victims of bullies and dysfunctional adults. I think his loyalty to Dumbledore stems from the fact that Dumbledore had the marvelous ability to see one's true self and help them find it...and believe it.

chochang

i believe that the last horcrux will be inside of harry's own body, because when voldemort attempted to kill harry he had passed on some of his own qualities eg: parselmouth so because snape was a spy he told voldemort about the prophecy and so voldemort put a horcrux in harry becasue he knew that harry woud be most danger to him. as the propechy says: one must not live if the other survives, so if voldemort is to die then harry must also... and that wilbe how the series can end.

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