Pakistani Honour Killings

[naomi24]

It transpires that the family who, whilst police looked on, stoned to death a pregnant woman outside the courthouse in Lahore also killed her sister in separate ‘honour killing’ – and the bereaved husband has confessed that he strangled his first wife in order to marry Farzana Parveen, the victim of the stoning. How long will it take before the law in this murky backwater of civilisation - and others like it - eliminates this horrendous and barbaric culture once and for all?

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/05/31/farzana-iqbal-stoned-death_n_5422922.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular

[Spannerfiend]

Unbelievable that these cultures exist in 2014. Barbaric, backward, uncivilised and thoroughly evil.

Those responsible are the lowest form of life on the planet despite what their moronic cultures and religions "tell" them to do.

[dunnitall]

And where are the 'moderates' who should be condemning it!

[sandyRoe]

Did the kin of the bereaved husbands first wife, who he admits to killing, not want revenge for her death? Have they no honour?

[lady-janine]

why did he kill his first wife? I thought they are allowed to have more than one. also thought their divorce laws were simple for a man.

[wolf63]

Do they not love their daughters? Are they so scared of what others think of them that they would kill their child to enable them to reclaim the family honour? Their concept of honour must differ greatly from theirs.

[naomi24]

//And where are the 'moderates' who should be condemning it!//

In fairness there are pictures here of people with placards condemning it.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2645351/Sister-pregnant-woman-stoned-death-street-Pakistan-says-murdered-husband-NOT-father-brothers.html

//Did the kin of the bereaved husbands first wife, who he admits to killing, not want revenge for her death? Have they no honour?//

According to this …

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/may/29/pakistan-man-protesting-honour-killing-admits-strangling-first-wife

//He avoided a prison sentence after his family used Islamic provisions of Pakistan's legal system to forgive him…. Police confirmed that the killing had happened six years ago and that he was released after a "compromise" with his family.//

[ummmm]

That's what I always think, Wolfe, how can you kill someone you love in cold blood.

[sandyRoe]

Much of the Indian sub-continent, not just Islamic Pakistan, seems to be backward beyond belief. Just days ago two young Indian women, probably Hindu, were raped and hanged from a tree. The police were reluctant to act because they were 'low caste'.
They have a long way to go to reach standards that the west would find acceptable.

[dunnitall]

Thanks Naomi. What a shame that The moderates then don't go towards changing that culture once and for all to stop this barbaric practice and belief.

[anotheoldgit]

sandyRoe

/// Much of the Indian sub-continent, not just Islamic Pakistan, seems to be backward beyond belief. ///

It is not just the Indian sub-continent, Africa is not much better, that is why i can never understand why it is never PC to say "we are superior to them."

All I can say is "thank goodness we are."

[youngmafbog]

//How long will it take before the law in this murky backwater of civilisation - and others like it - eliminates this horrendous and barbaric culture once and for al//

Well it will be reducing in Pakistan now it is being bought here, especially once they get their Sharia courts taking precedence of our law.

It's their culture according to the PC brigade, we are usually labelled racist for even discussing the topic.

[keyplus90]

There is no honour in killing anyone let alone your own child. Unfortunately rural areas in many countries in the world have certain things or aspects that are not acceptable and should be condemned. But here I will not talk about any other country although I know that Pakistan is not the only place where these kinds of incidents happen. And a very simple reason for that is because Pakistan is my own birth place and I would only talk about that. First of it has nothing to do with any religion but more to do with backward cultures, lack of “proper” education and a system where culprits like these should be caught and punished properly. Why it is taking time to change these things is a long story and so many reasons behind that but corrupt rulers who bring in corrupt systems and one main reason. Perhaps left alone by the outside forces, people in those countries will find their own way.

[ludwig]

It's a toxic mixture of ignorance, poverty, stupidity, misogyny and plain cruelty, all seemingly enabled by a religion and culture that's mired in the middle ages.

The change needs to come from within, and the protests we're seeing over there are the first steps towards that, but I fear it will be a long, slow, painful process.

[Canary42]

England was equally barbaric once. We took a very very long time to develop a kinder more compassionate society (which many people still decry, yearning for a return to the "good old days" of hanging etc.) - hopefully with the pressure of outside influence which we didn't have, these other countries will achieve it in far less time - in the meantime it will be painful for us to watch.

[ludwig]

That's true canary. We have to hope it'll be less than the 500+ years it took Europeans to evolve from their witch hanging and inquisitioning ways.