Porn

[nailit]

Hope this post doesnt get deleted, its a serious query.
Just why is porn mainly seen as a 'man' thing?
I'm a man and I like porn. Ive had girlfriends who have loved a bit of porn (especialy if that porn has got a 'story' to it and not just sex acts been filmed), Ive had other girlfriends who have hated it and seen it as been degrading to women (but curiously not degrading to men...) Overall though, porn is seen as a man thing. Why is that? And why is it seen as degrading to women but not to men?
Dont want a smutty thread here, I'm genuinely curious in the different ways we see things.

[murraymints]

hmmmm..

[sandyRoe]

I stopped watching porn when I found myself wondering what was it in the actors lives that had brought them to do what they were doing.

[bednobs]

is it seen as a man thing? I didn't think so

[bobtheturkey]

Because male porn stars look like peter stringfellow

[nailit]

//I stopped watching porn when I found myself wondering what was it in the actors lives that had brought them to do what they were doing.// what was that then? Ive seen documentries with porn stars and most of them love their work (male AND female)

[sandyRoe]

Many of the actresses look to be slightly over-the-hill prostitutes earning an extra few dollars. The men might do it for the fun, the money, to show off,or a combination of all three. That's 'normal' porn I was thinking of.
I can't believe many would enjoy making bestiality porn.

[nailit]

//can't believe many would enjoy making bestiality porn.//
who mentioned beastiality porn? I didn't. Or under age porn.

[sandyRoe]

I agree, you didn't mention bestiality. But it exists and I don't think the people who indulge in it for the cameras do it for any other reason than the money.

[nailit]

ok going off thread but why do it then for other than the money Sandy? I'm intrigued, Surely not the love of sheep, or dogs etc?

[sandyRoe]

It's made because there are people who will pay to view it.

[starone]

I assume it is to "turn you on". I tried watching some and it definitely turned me completely off. I found it embarrassing in the extreme to watch other people performing.

[Old_Geezer]

Because men get to look at beautiful women as their desire, whilst women have to put up with hairy arsed men, and so have less likelihood of finding that great ?

Or, of course, it could have either nature or nurture reasons. Perhaps the way the brain is wired encourages more interest in relationships than visual images of the body ?

As for the "degrading" opinion I suspect one has to first decide one is not keen on porn, and then project how they would feel across the board and think others with a different view are doing something bad. It says more about those holding such views, especially those who act on them, than it does bout porn itself.

Plus I suspect such individuals have the opinion that porn means men doing things to women rather than individuals doing things to themselves or holding an equal responsibility/whatever in a situation. Maybe they thing men couldn't degrade themselves no matter how they tried :-) Which would be a rather sexist viewpoint if it turned out to be true. But there again that's the way life is.

[nailit]

ok Sandy, thank you. Now back to my original Q, who mentioned beastiality?

[boxtops]

I find this a legitimate question. Page 3 in the Sun is a case in point (OK it's not porn, but it's the Sun thinking we all want to look at women's breasts). I know some women like porn - I find a complete turnoff, like star.

[starone]

And I think I am pretty broad-minded!!

[Old_Geezer]

I can't imagine a "straight" women would be overly interested in a pair of naked woman's breasts on page 3 of a newspaper. But for the male population it's a nice lift to the day. And it's been a long long time since I have had such a lift, do they still do it ? Meanwhile I think the women are assumed to not be fussed about it, or at least the more reasonable ones. I seem to recall the Mirror used to have a bare chested fellow at some point too.

[sandyRoe]

Porn isn't just two people going through the motions of 'making love' for the cameras. Bestiality, S+M, r*** fantasy, and watersports, are all part of the porn industries output.
So when you mention porn and say: "Ive seen documentries with porn stars and most of them love their work (male AND female)", I'm entitled to say that I doubt if the people engaged in bestiality for the cameras are there for any other reason than the money.



Hi All,
Very interesting thread and well argued. Just one tiny change to keep it "nice" :-)

auntie xxx

[DaisyNonna]

Are bare chested women comparable to bare chested men or are you missing something(s)?